Where do you stand on Healthcare?

How do you feel about the healthcare currently provided in the US?

  • It’s perfect the way it is. No changes necessary.

  • I like our system but it needs some tweaking.

  • I like the idea of our system but it has gotten much too expensive and needs major reform.

  • I think the format for providing healthcare is flawed and it needs rebuilt from the ground up.

  • Other

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#26
#26
jvol1 said:
Healthcare coverage, Medicare and medicaid, needs to be increased in some sort of comprehensive entitlement reform. Its too vital to its citizens for government to not take the lead to make sure everyone has access.
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The government has such a long and established history of effective management.
 
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#27
#27
jvol1 said:
Healthcare coverage, Medicare and medicaid, needs to be increased in some sort of comprehensive entitlement reform. Its too vital to its citizens for government to not take the lead to make sure everyone has access.
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Blue Font OR Socialist?
 
#28
#28
OHvol40 said:
We’re trying to stay solution oriented in this thread lol
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The solution is to stay away from the medical profession as much as possible. That way you may live and your outlay for medical care will go way down.
 
#29
#29
ajvol01 said:
This is what many people who are pro government healthcare don’t understand.

In many ways the ACA has hurt more than it has helped - especially small businesses and their employees/families.

HSA should be a key part of the long term fix, but not sure how we get out of the current mess we’re in.
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We can't get out of the mess. That was the intention of the ACA, it was designed to destroy all other options and fail forcing us into a .gov run healthcare system.
 
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#32
hog88 said:
The government has such a long and established history of effective management.
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The private sector hasn't done such a great job with this one either. NPR runs a new segment each month or so about the crazy Bill's people get, pharma prices out of control. With sky high deductibles, people may not be able to put some away for an hsa or be living paycheck to paycheck anyway.
 
#33
#33
jvol1 said:
The private sector hasn't done such a great job with this one either. NPR runs a new segment each month or so about the crazy Bill's people get, pharma prices out of control. With sky high deductibles, people may not be able to put some away for an hsa or be living paycheck to paycheck anyway.
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I agree that there is problems but if you trace the problems to the roots you'll find it is because of .gov involvement. Having the .gov take over healthcare will just lead to a different set of problems.
 
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#34
#34
hog88 said:
It's a PITA expense for the employer. It has gotten so expensive it's hard to use it as a retention/recruiting tool anymore. And when employee contributions go up you inevitably get the disgruntled employees pissed that "you" are taking more money out of their pockets. I hate it.
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Ok gotcha. Along those same lines, the corporation that employs me provides annual reviews with increases. I am thankful for my job and it pays well but as soon as we get our pay increase it is somewhat negated by the spike in our medical/dental coverage that happens every year. Another thing that seriously irks me are the incentives employees get for meeting the low BMI and non-tobacco use. These are typical industry standard incentives. My wife and I are under the same family plan and meet the requirements of low BMI/non tobacco to keep rates low. We eat healthy for the most part, exercise, and maintain good health. Many of my co-workers at the office are morbidly obese & some people smoke packs of cigarettes daily. All they have to do to prevent their rates from spiking is simply have a physician sign a form and write a letter stating that they are on plan to lose weight or in the process of not smoking. That is fine the company allows it but Most of them never go through with that BS and still eat doughnuts at their desk all day. There needs to be added incentives for people that don’t live like slobs.
 
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#35
#35
hog88 said:
I agree that there is problems but if you trace the problems to the roots you'll find it is because of .gov involvement. Having the .gov take over healthcare will just lead to a different set of problems.
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As will deregulating completely. The main one being that a lot of people will go without, which is fine in for many things but less so for healthcare.
 
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#40
#40
What is the National plan for retail chain clothing store deployment? What are the government negotiated item prices?

What is the National plan for building materials sourcing? What are the standardized price lists for this commodity.

Thus the government needs to get the hell out of the way on healthcare also.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Government supplied food would be good, but the food would suck..
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Like this?
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hog88 said:
Haven't seen any suggestions from you.
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I suggest that healthcare motivated by profit is at odds with the nature of healthcare. It’s an inherent conflict of interest.

The reason healthcare is so much more expensive in this country is that people here are burdened with supporting billionaire executives from insurance and pharmaceutical companies and the millionaires that work for them. That isn’t a patient-centered system, it’s a profit factory.

My suggestion is removing profit to benefit the patient population.
 
#48
#48
OHvol40 said:
I suggest that healthcare motivated by profit is at odds with the nature of healthcare. It’s an inherent conflict of interest.

The reason healthcare is so much more expensive in this country is that people here are burdened with supporting billionaire executives from insurance and pharmaceutical companies and the millionaires that work for them. That isn’t a patient-centered system, it’s a profit factory.
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What do you propose to fix it?
 
#49
#49
hog88 said:
What do you propose to fix it?
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Realistically? For now probably a government option for coverage intended to drive down the cost of private insurance.

Long term, probably a Medicare for all type model.
 
#50
#50
OHvol40 said:
I suggest that healthcare motivated by profit is at odds with the nature of healthcare. It’s an inherent conflict of interest.

The reason healthcare is so much more expensive in this country is that people here are burdened with supporting billionaire executives from insurance and pharmaceutical companies and the millionaires that work for them. That isn’t a patient-centered system, it’s a profit factory.
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Should doctors pay be cut to a maximum amount?

Or only the executives pay should be cut?

Good luck getting quality care once the doctors’ pay gets put on price controls.
 
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