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If course it isn't. Because if you do compare the numbers to the general population, the fact that 61% of college football players are black seems extremely racist.

Somehow not only is it okay to ignore that racism, all other careers in the field should be equally racist.

If we go down this road, let's do it correctly. 13% of football coaches to be black. 13% of football players to be black. Mandatory.

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Comparing to general population isn't the number worth discussing, in my opinion.

61% of college football players are black. 10.8% of college head coaches are black.

You're right. That is a problem. We need quotas for white players.

Playing != coaching. Fitness for one doesn't confer fitness for the other. But by all means, let's slap some woke affirmative action on coaching and see if we can screw up yet another institution.
 
Burton’s long TD run took a chunk of my heart. I don’t think it’s possible for me to ever get back to that level of emotional investment.
That was the second game I had ever attended. My young self thought I was finally going to get to see a good Vols football team. Im not lying when I say I shed a tear after that run.
 
Since we're all playing the game, 3 loudest games I've attended.

1. 2006 Florida 106,919 att. The only time in my life I've experienced visible white noise.

2. 2013 Georgia (Pig fumble) 102,455 att. Wow that place exploded on that play. What a terrible loss for such an atmosphere that evening.

3. 2015 Oklahoma 102,455 att. 4th and 1 foot to score a td with a 240lb tailback and that game never goes to OT. Butch Jones kicks a 15 yard field goal. He was dead to me that night. Took my nephew to his first game in Neyland. He was 10. Poor kid, he sat around studying UT history, former players, watched old games all the time. He's 15 now and tells me the other day "face it, we are a basketball school".
2013 Pig Fumble game was the loudest I've experienced
 
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Speaking of HCs, I wonder why Lance Leipold doesn’t get more run as a candidate.

Dude was 109-6 at Wisconsin-Whitewater and won 6 D-III championships.

Had Buffalo’s first 10-win season ever in 2018. Seems to have that program respectable. They’re 4-0 this season. Putting up a sh*t ton of points.

Please note this is not an endorsement for him to be at UT and is intended only for a topic of discussion.
 
So I took an afternoon nap, not uncommon for those of us who are old and infirmed, and had the strangest dream. Phil Fulmer kept cryptically telling me things would change soon. He didn't tell me how, just that things were going to get better, that our future was looking brighter. Then I lost my car and kept stumbling across puppies, all while searching for a bathroom. Strange dream....

And no, there were no drugs involved. Those dreams are normally crazier.
 
Since we're all playing the game, 3 loudest games I've attended.

1. 2006 Florida 106,919 att. The only time in my life I've experienced visible white noise.

2. 2013 Georgia (Pig fumble) 102,455 att. Wow that place exploded on that play. What a terrible loss for such an atmosphere that evening.

3. 2015 Oklahoma 102,455 att. 4th and 1 foot to score a td with a 240lb tailback and that game never goes to OT. Butch Jones kicks a 15 yard field goal. He was dead to me that night. Took my nephew to his first game in Neyland. He was 10. Poor kid, he sat around studying UT history, former players, watched old games all the time. He's 15 now and tells me the other day "face it, we are a basketball school".
When the block happened we went nuts up in seats near Jesus.

I also was at the 2016 UF game and we were in the endzone and side of the Jennings vs Tabor catch and good lord it was looooouuudd
 
What’s your take on Yurcich then? It was his baby this season.
Hard to say, because a lot of the inconsistencies and limitations they had last year look a lot like this year. When you have a coach with his experience on one side of the ball, it is always tough to figure out how much credit/blame goes to the coordinator, kinda like with Ansley and Pruitt. They lost their best WR's this year, which definitely set back the passing game, and the o-line has just been mediocre both years. Herman's inclination is to have a physical running game in 11 and 12 personnel, and last year they were much better offensively when they went up tempo spreading teams out and throwing it, but he would often insist on trying to establish the run for too long. This has happened at times this year as well. They are taking more shots downfield (I think a Yurchich wrinkle), but Ehlinger isn't that accurate on deep balls, and his WR's aren't great 50/50 jump ball guys. It's also hard to evaluate given that Yurcich didn't get spring practices to implement his new system

Chris Ash ended up being a strong hire, the defense has gotten better and better as the year has gone on, and it speaks well of Herman for bringing him in.
 
Oklahoma in 2015 was unbelievably loud.
Georgia in 2013...the stadium was shaking in the upper deck, and I’ve been up there many times without that happening.
Florida in 1998 with 107k was crazy.

I would love to have the chance to be down on the field when it’s that loud just to see how loud it is for the players. I can’t even imagine.

Random Loud One-------- Peerless Price carved up the UCLA secondary 1996--- He caught one and shook off two CB's to take it to the end zone... place went crazy.
 
Loudest for me was Florida 1998. It was like a wall of sound that you could just feel pressing on your eardrums. When Shawn Bryson ripped off that long TD run in the first half, it was ON, and everyone knew it.

Was there. Upper deck under the V (before the jumbotron). Watching the goalposts moving around the field like leaves floating on a pond was surreal. Good times.
 
I was there for that one. 2015 Oklahoma is the loudest game from start to finish that I’ve attended.

Another honorable mention is 2016 Florida when Appleby threw a pick on the next possession after Jennings scored the long go ahead TD.

One of my favs. Courtesy of GoVols 24/7:
Oklahoma OL still 'in awe' of Vols' crowd noise
ByRYAN CALLAHAN Sep 14, 2016

More than a year later, at least one Oklahoma player still hasn't forgotten his first game-day experience at Tennessee's Neyland Stadium.

Sooners senior offensive lineman Ty Darlington published a blog post Wednesday morning challenging Oklahoma fans to create "the craziest atmosphere in Sooner football history" Saturday night for their home game against third-ranked Ohio State, using the Sooners' trip to Tennessee last year as an example of "the impact a crowd CAN have upon a football game."

Darlington wrote that he "was never a big believer in homefield advantage" before Oklahoma's 31-24 double-overtime victory over the Vols on Sept. 12, 2015, a game during which the crowd noise once was measured at 114 decibels — officially a Neyland Stadium record.

"The Vol faithful made it absolutely impossible to communicate," Darlington wrote. "On the first drive, we had to change our snap count, because even our silent count was ineffective against that wall of noise. I came off the field after that first drive and reassured (offensive line) Coach (Bill) Bedenbaugh that the fans would settle down in due time, and that noise was not going to be an issue going forward.He said he came away "in awe" of the impact Tennessee's fans made throughout the game.

"Boy was I wrong. The noise was a constant, oppressive force. I could literally feel it on my skin. But these fans weren’t just loud on the first drive. Or just on 3rd down. Or just in the fourth quarter. It was every. single. play. On the offensive line, we couldn’t hear (quarterback) Baker (Mayfield)’s play calls, we couldn’t make our own combo calls, and we couldn’t communicate checks and alerts verbally. We resorted to a makeshift hand signaling system that was at times more confusing than informative.
"At times, we were much more worried about simply KNOWING the play than we were about actually EXECUTING it. That night in Neyland Stadium, playing football seemed all but impossible, and that can be attributed as much to the men and women in the stands as to the uniformed men on the field itself.
"That night, as I boarded the flight back to Norman with Rocky Top ringing in my ears, I realized that I had been converted. From a man skeptical of fan impact, to a man in awe of it."
 
Comparing to general population isn't the number worth discussing, in my opinion.

61% of college football players are black. 10.8% of college head coaches are black.


Fair point. Let me play devil's advocate if you will. One could legitimately, ask the question why 61% of college football players are black. The implication is that the 10.8% representation of black coaches is too low and due to racism. On the other hand, one could also argue on the same premise that it's due to racism that 61% of players are black. The only way to reconcile all of this is to put the best coaches on the sideline and the best players on the field solely based on coaching skills/athletic skills regardless of ethnic background. Whenever we start making decisions to reward/ punish/include/exclude with race as a criteria, it's generally the beginning of confusion and division.
 
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