2020 Presidential Race

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RavinDave said:
Mark Steyn was guest-hosting for Rush today and went into the “4 dumps” in some detail. He referred to Rand Paul’s tweet where it was evidently laid out in some detail as well.

In one of those dumps there were over 150,000 ballots, and all but about 5000 of them went to Biden; that’s roughly 97%.

Who can believe that was not a cooked up mess?

The Dem’s were obviously desperate to make such a blatant play to overcome Trump’s lead there.
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There are obviously highly concentrated dem and gop areas. If votes are transferred from precincts with high concentrations to a central system by thumb drives then you could periodically get very lopsided inputs. I have no problem accepting that, but when it isn't even addressed in dismissing claims then you really have to wonder why not. If vote tallies aren't transmitted with thumb drives or similar then they have to be connected somehow, and I don't think anybody has a separately wired state wide delivery system - at least that's not addressed either, yet everybody seems to claim that systems aren't connected to the internet. So the question becomes just how are the data transferred and how secure is the delivery method - and that's not addressed either. When nobody's talking except to say "nothing to see here", normal people tend to get suspicious.

Tennessee, for example, has four major cities. It would take a while to collect data from every precinct in each city to a central location. Then supposedly that information would be relayed to Nashville. So how do you imagine the data transfer happens as rapidly as it does on election night unless the systems are connected via the internet? I tend to think the bit about voting equipment being offline is an outright lie.
 
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AM64 said:
There are obviously highly concentrated dem and gop areas. If votes are transferred from precincts with high concentrations to a central system by thumb drives then you could periodically get very lopsided inputs. I have no problem accepting that, but when it isn't even addressed in dismissing claims then you really have to wonder why not. If vote tallies aren't transmitted with thumb drives or similar then they have to be connected somehow, and I don't think anybody has a separately wired state wide delivery system - at least that's not addressed either, yet everybody seems to claim that systems aren't connected to the internet. So the question becomes just how are the data transferred and how secure is the delivery method - and that's not addressed either. When nobody's talking except to say "nothing to see here", normal people tend to get suspicious.

Tennessee, for example, has four major cities. It would take a while to collect data from every precinct in each city to a central location. Then supposedly that information would be relayed to Nashville. So how do you imagine the data transfer happens as rapidly as it does on election night unless the systems are connected via the internet? I tend to think the bit about voting equipment being offline is an outright lie.
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I have to disagree with you here.

I may be wrong but that just seems too far off the bell curve to be believable.
 
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I just got caught up on the thread. I am pretty sure both Arizona and Wisconsin certified results today. Something tells me PA is about to follow suit. I know this is a weird thing to consider. But, what if Biden won PA?
 
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RavinDave said:
It’s not their first and it won’t be their last.
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Remember the first days of Obama on CNN and how they listed his daily accomplishments., yet the WaPo lists Trumps supposed lies. And now in these quaint times we learn Joe is a dog lover. I mean that has to take precedent over anything about policy.

Nothing but propaganda machine
 
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RavinDave said:
I have to disagree with you here.

I may be wrong but that just seems too far off the bell curve to be believable.
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I should have said I could see blips when the inputs are very lopsided ... both ways. A sustained lopsided count in most places makes absolutely no sense at all. Not even in a state like CA where the margin was roughly 2 to 1 Biden - Trump.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Remember the first days of Obama on CNN and how they listed his daily accomplishments., yet the WaPo lists Trumps supposed lies? And now in these quaint times we learn Joe is a dog lover. I mean that has to take precedent over anything about policy.

Nothing but propaganda machine
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Where was Joe's SS detail when the mutt broke his foot? The Ho may have an easier time getting rid of Joe than we originally thought.
 
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RavinDave said:
I have to disagree with you here.

I may be wrong but that just seems too far off the bell curve to be believable.
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Would it be believable that Trump voters followed his wishes and didn't mail their ballots, but opted, as requested, to vote in person.

The in-person vote was the first to be tallied, and the mailed ballots were.being counted and submitted periodically afterward.

This is exactly the way things went in most states, per my observations.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Remember the first days of Obama on CNN and how they listed his daily accomplishments., yet the WaPo lists Trumps supposed lies? And now in these quaint times we learn Joe is a dog lover. I mean that has to take precedent over anything about policy.

Nothing but propaganda machine
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You think this broken ankle might be a stunt for sympathy?

Or is he really that frail?

He really is that frail.

But if you’re no dog lover take heart - they’re getting a cat!

No pet lover left unpandered.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Would it be believable that Trump voters followed his wishes and didn't mail their ballots, but opted, as requested, to vote in person.

The in-person vote was the first to be tallied, and the mailed ballots were.being counted and submitted periodically afterward.

This is exactly the way things went in most states, per my observations.
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You’ve got a point but some of those splits still seem unreal.
 
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RavinDave said:
You think this broken ankle might be a stunt for sympathy?

Or is he really that frail?

He really is that frail.

But if you’re no dog lover take heart - they’re getting a cat!

No pet lover left unpandered.
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The karma is incredible. Just days ago they were touting Bidens love for dogs and mocked Trump for not having one. Turns out even poochie dislikes Joe.
Next thing we know, a cat will trip him on the stairs...
 
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RavinDave said:
You’ve got a point but some of those splits still seem unreal.
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A bit like normal times at the polls, but with nothing that makes sense in the mail it in garbage count. Which is interesting because one process is monitored and IDs checked, and the other ... not so much.
 
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Orangeburst said:
The karma is incredible. Just days ago they were touting Bidens love for dogs and mocked Trump for not having one. Turns out even poochie dislikes Joe.
Next thing we know, a cat will trip him on the stairs...
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Cats are sneaky devils; they get in front, won't let you around, and then stop. And you can never go downstairs at night without turning on the light.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
You're thinking Kemp didn't rig the election, but would be embarrassed to expose it because it happened on his watch?
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If it happened (jury still out), yes I think he has an incentive to publicly try to shut it down. (1) anyone that acts like there is any investigation needed is crucified by media and labeled a conspiracy theorist; (2) it would look bad if it happened under his watch.

Trump legal team needs to ultimately prove it but there are enough statistical anomalies that at least warrant questioning/investigation IMO. May not change this election but will hopefully make future election procedures more secure/trustworthy.
 
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AM64 said:
Cats are sneaky devils; they get in front, won't let you around, and then stop. And you can never go downstairs at night without turning on the light.
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Felines or Harris,,,,one of them will do him in. Gonna be like a game of Clue.
 
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AM64 said:
A bit like normal times at the polls, but with nothing that makes sense in the mail it in garbage count. Which is interesting because one process is monitored and IDs checked, and the other ... not so much.
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I would guess there was a lot of organized ballot harvesting going on with the mail-in vote. A lot of opportunity for organizer/activists to convert on ballots that would otherwise have gone unused.
 
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RavinDave said:
I would guess there was a lot of organized ballot harvesting going on with the mail-in vote. A lot of opportunity for organizer/activists to convert on ballots that would otherwise have gone unused.
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Did anyone ever explain the need for ballot drop boxes - why the ballots couldn't simply go in the mail since that's presumably how they got to the voter in the first place.
 
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AM64 said:
Did anyone ever explain the need for ballot drop boxes - why the ballots couldn't simply go in the mail since that's presumably how they got to the voter in the first place.
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If it was explained in here I missed it. Don’t fully understand all the steps in the process or its permutations.
 
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RavinDave said:
If it was explained in here I missed it. Don’t fully understand all the steps in the process or its permutations.
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I have to say my first thought is that mail fraud is a crime; maybe that made some people pumping the fraud by mail system a little leery.
 
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