2020 Presidential Race

Yesiree it sure is refreshing to finally have someone on the (R) side that is not a quitter, nor an appeaser, nor an apologist and certainly not going to tuck tail and run. A down and dirty street fighter who is willing to get in the slop and wrestle with all the leftist filth.
See, I respect those that support him and acknowledge that he's a classless POS and don't care, although claiming he's a street fighter of sorts isn't an accurate characterization of him. He's much too thin skinned for that label. Down and dirty street fighters are generally honest souls. We know for a fact Trump is anything but honest
 
No worse than another bunch of people wanting to see by any means an old fool in the WH rather than in a facility that handles dementia cases. And I'll be kind enough not to mention the fraud in his background.

If “by any means” you mean “by the previously agreed upon rules for administration of elections,” then I guess I agree.
 
2018 -- Trump issued a state of emergency concerning foreign interference in US elections.

After the 2020 election, Trump makes sweeping changes at the top of the DoD, including appointing a new SecDef.

New SecDef reorgs special forces/operations to bypass previous reporting chain and report directly to him.

Gen Flynn finally pardoned, releasing him to speak freely. In 1st public interview, he says (among other things):

"There is a coup against our government."

"When your enemy tells you what they plan to do, you listen and prepare."

"China (and other nations) attacked and defrauded the 2020 election."

"I won't publicly discuss the confiscation of election servers in Germany, by our military special forces."
 
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What would be your recourse for legislators if they rushed through a new and very flawed voting process without even what would have to have been a cursory look to see if they acted in accordance with the state constitution? What about the voters who opted for something too good to be true - but legal for the time being? Engineers hate the business adage that "there's never enough time to do it right, but there's always time to fix it". Seems like the courts - especially including John Roberts flunked the test by claiming there wasn't enough time to deliberate properly. If that were true, then mail it in voting should have been declared dead in it's tracks rather than allowed to go on - at least that seems to be the normal regulatory kind of thought when something can't be deemed safe.
They (PA) have had over a year to figure out that it was unconstitutional and fix it. In Georgia they have had 8 months. Both states have had multiple test runs. They didn’t fix it because it wasn’t a problem.

And the recourse is the legislature passes new legislation and runs the next election differently.

Election reform is a forward facing proposition. You fix the problem going forward so that the next election is run better. You don’t throw out the legal votes of millions of people.
 
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Imagine if WI, PA and GA elections were voided as unconstitutional and electors were assigned via state legislatures.


Sure why bother voting. Righties can make a wish about who they want to win and the good fairy will come along and grant the wish.

When was the last tie a Republican won the popular vote in a Presidential election?
 
Sure why bother voting. Righties can make a wish about who they want to win and the good fairy will come along and grant the wish.

When was the last tie a Republican won the popular vote in a Presidential election?
Why does the popular vote matter so much to you guys? Popular vote doesn't determine who is president.
 
Sure why bother voting. Righties can make a wish about who they want to win and the good fairy will come along and grant the wish.

When was the last tie a Republican won the popular vote in a Presidential election?

That would be 2004. There are kids with driver's licenses today who weren't alive the last time a Republican candidate received the majority of votes.

Incoming "popular vote doesn't matter", "we're a republic, not a democracy!", "tyranny of the majority", etc.

Edit: Oh look, too slow on the draw, I missed it by just a minute.
 
That would be 2004. There are kids with driver's licenses today who weren't alive the last time a Republican candidate received the majority of votes.

Incoming "popular vote doesn't matter", "we're a republic, not a democracy!", "tyranny of the majority", etc.

Edit: Oh look, too slow on the draw, I missed it by just a minute.

you should try to change the constitution because the mindless crying about the popularity contest is getting old and it’s not going to change
 
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And was never intended too
People really should read some history.
"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States."

Well, if the electoral college was working properly, Donald Trump would never have been elected. So I guess back to the drawing board for the Founding Fathers.
 
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"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States."

Well, if the electoral college was working properly, Donald Trump would never have been elected. So I guess back to the drawing board for the Founding Fathers.
^^^^^
The weak minded.
 
"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States."

Well, if the electoral college was working properly, Donald Trump would never have been elected. So I guess back to the drawing board for the Founding Fathers.
petitio principii

(Also, the bold in the quote didn't say what you seem to think it should have said about Trump.)
 
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For example
Did you know that early on most states chose who to vote for in their state legislature? The vote of citizens to determine was adopted over time by the states.

History and whatnot
 
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For example
Did you know that early on most states chose who to vote for in their state legislature? The vote of citizens to determine was adopted over time by the states.

History and whatnot
And is still just basically considered a general temperament test. The Constitution still gives the votes to the state legislators, and leaves it up to each state how mandatory they make the popular vote in the election.

As far as the constitution is concerned, the American citizen gets to pick his representation by choosing his state legislator, and his US house rep.
 
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