2020 Presidential Race

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volinsd said:
Yeah I thought so too...even tried to ask why you wouldnt want to set things straight if proven true. Just the same song and dance though. I will just reply with a willfully blind meme to em from now on. If there isnt gonna be logical conversation, ill at least make myself laugh
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't care about who would win an election, but knowing that an election is honest and free of fraud is the real important thing. It's hard to convince dems here that the outrage isn't selective. Having foreign voices trying to lead people one way or another isn't going away, and we do it, too - and have for decades. That kind of influence isn't at all the same as someone actually diddling in the process, but it's funny how it was a theme while appearances of real fraud to the same group are deemed sour grapes. If someone can't understand "challenge" to a solid process vs an actual failure of the process, I guess as you say there's not much common ground or rationality to work with.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That some of you actually think that Tulsi Gabbard would run on a Republican Party ticket, indicates that you really don't know that much about her policies, and just like her because she is attractive.

Tulsi Gabbard is not only pro-choice, she has advocated for federal funding for abortion and has been one of the biggest proponents of Planned Parenthood. She is also an outspoken critic of the NRA, who has lobbied hard for gun control. Gabbard supports a common rifle weapons ban, and universal background checks on top of the checks people have to take to get their permits to begin with.

She actually said this: "In an ideal world, we would listen to people instead of political action committees and the gun lobby and the N.R.A.".

Gabbard has a hard socialist lean. She supports making four year college tuition free for students from households that earn less than $125,000 per year. She has said this free tuition would be funded by a new tax on trading stocks and bonds.

Gabbard supports a universal health care plan called "Single Payer Plus". In 2017, she co-sponsored the Expanded & Improved Medicare For All Act to create a national health insurance program that covers uninsured as well as underinsured people. This would have been paid for in part by raising taxes on the wealthy and ALSO BY TAXING FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS. Even Bernie Sanders thought this was too extreme.

Gabbard is also an environmentalist who has introduced legislation seeking to transition the United States to clean renewable energy. This proposed bill would ban hydraulic fracturing. Gabbard has voiced support for the Green New Deal, but says that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's version "doesn't go far enough." Gabbard said this in 2017: "I do not support leaving the door open to nuclear power unless and until there is a permanent solution to the problem of nuclear waste."


But you see a Republican when you look at her?

She is as hardcore liberal as you can get on most of the issues that Republicans consider to be important. You could not possibly know anything about her and believe that she would run on a Republican Party ticket. You look really stupid for even bringing it up.
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It was really only one person in here who suggested it. He'll will freeze over before she would ever align herself with a feckless coward like Trump
 
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PointGuard said:
So you say. What’s your boyfriend say?
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Sounds like you're interested. Calm yourself down.

I must have misled you, I'm not "pretty" per se, more like ruggedly handsome, but then it appears that you are easily misled based solely on your posting history.

Not saying you are dumb or anything.

Well, maybe I am.
 
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volinsd said:
Yeah I thought so too...even tried to ask why you wouldnt want to set things straight if proven true. Just the same song and dance though. I will just reply with a willfully blind meme to em from now on. If there isnt gonna be logical conversation, ill at least make myself laugh
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I fir one would Be happy to set things straight if proven true. You don’t seem to understand the courts have looked at these cases and one by one tossed them. They are not supported by any factual evidence. Rudy and/or Sydney saying it is so does not make it so. There are no facts. They have no facts The End. Election has been over since Biden won PA. 306 to 223. Popular vote by what now 6.5 million votes. Pretty tough for a President to unify a country when half want to keep fighting a losing fight. Trump lost. End of story
 
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37L1 said:
Sounds like you're interested. Calm yourself down.

I must have misled you, I'm not "pretty" per se, more like ruggedly handsome, but then it appears that you are easily misled based solely on your posting history.

Not saying you are dumb or anything.

Well, maybe I am.
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I’m reading your post and thinking you’re calling me dumb? Ha!
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
It was really only one person in here who suggested it. He'll will freeze over before she would ever align herself with a feckless coward like Trump
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Yep, have to agree with you. I couldn't see Tulsi aligning with someone as undisciplined as Trump. It didn't work out well for a lot of others who were more regimented in thought and process either.
 
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37L1 said:
Sounds like you're interested. Calm yourself down.

I must have misled you, I'm not "pretty" per se, more like ruggedly handsome, but then it appears that you are easily misled based solely on your posting history.

Not saying you are dumb or anything.

Well, maybe I am.
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I’m most definitely pretty. E87F1149-C19D-4F53-9DA2-C88547AC7CC8.jpeg
 
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PointGuard said:
I fir one would Be happy to set things straight if proven true. You don’t seem to understand the courts have looked at these cases and one by one tossed them. They are not supported by any factual evidence. Rudy and/or Sydney saying it is so does not make it so. There are no facts. They have no facts The End. Election has been over since Biden won PA. 306 to 223. Popular vote by what now 6.5 million votes. Pretty tough for a President to unify a country when half want to keep fighting a losing fight. Trump lost. End of story
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How could you have factual evidence? Wouldn't that require something like theft of ballots, thumb drives, or databases? Wouldn't that theft open someone to charges of theft of government property and fraud? The closest thing to actual "proof" is sworn statements by poll watchers and others involved with the process. Courts see what they want to see and disregard the rest for one "legal" reason or another. There was no "proof" of what was wrong with the 737Max software until it was investigated due to questionable things like a couple of planes apparently flying themselves into the ground even though most others didn't. If there was "proof" of fraud, the courts would supposedly be all about prosecuting the guilty rather than forcing election commissions to allow investigations of some unexplainable events - which might be explainable if they were opened to scrutiny. Who won isn't the big issue; that elections are free of fraud and favoritism is the issue.
 
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