2020 Presidential Race

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OldVolMan said:
But, China is loving it.
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Eh China would have loved Susan Rice because she burned all her bridges in Asia. Blinkin on the other hand has relationships in Western European and Asia and there will be no push back against China without those relationships.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
When has America ever not been first? Hell, America always puts its interest above the interest of anything else.
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No, we haven't. Some people put their interests first, but they don't put the nation's interests first. Had they put the nation's interests above their own, our industry wouldn't be in China.
 
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Wow! Volnation is acting just like they lost a ballgame with all the would of, could have, we were robbed comments.

I think it is time to admit who is the biggest Snowflake and who's cult members can not believe their King is a loser.
Next you will come to terms with your Kings motto; Why tell the truth when a good lie will work.

It's time to take your ball and go home as all Trump snowflakes do when things don't go as they think they are entitled.

Reading this thread is like being around Trump my BS antenna arises.
 
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Old Man Orange said:
Wow! Volnation is acting just like they lost a ballgame with all the would of, could have, we were robbed comments.

I think it is time to admit who is the biggest Snowflake and who's cult members can not believe their King is a loser.
Next you will come to terms with your Kings motto; Why tell the truth when a good lie will work.

It's time to take your ball and go home as all Trump snowflakes do when things don't go as they think they are entitled.

Reading this thread is like being around Trump my BS antenna arises.
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We try to be more subtle about it, but... yep
 
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Delmar said:
Don’t know about the IRS but the Southern District of NY has certainly been trying. But there are certain rules in place concerning a sitting President. If they don’t indict him when he leaves office, then I would agree it was a witch hunt. NY needs to put up or shut up. And it should be concerning to all how politicians get rich while in office. That’s why most of them do it. Money and connections. Nobody in their right mind would do it just for the salary.
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We do agree from time to time. I like much of what Trump has done as president because he doesn't think as just another politician. That's a trap we fall into way too often when the question about who is qualified to be president comes up. Trump actually showed a way around the thought that a president should be somebody who has held public office - EXCEPT for a couple of things. His communication is abominable, and he was overly polarizing.

There's simply no excuse for the communication issue - most HS kids could do better. The thing is that with Trump it was always hard to figure out what the hell he is trying to say; whereas, with most politicians it's a matter of figuring out what they aren't saying - because that's what they don't want you to know.

The other - Obama was just as polarizing, although I doubt that you can see it, but the level to which both took it detracts from what they did in office. Had Trump been more moderate in his demeanor, it's just possible he would have left office with people seeing that someone outside politics can handle the office quite well.

Trump generally speaking is trash (at least to me) - mostly without any redeeming qualities, but I do like several things he accomplished as president even if not the way he did them. He obviously has poor management skills - at least in staffing matters, and he failed to meet the DC bureaucracy head on in a way that he could win - it was more like a constant battle of toddlers. Whatever happens to him after he leaves office, is on him; but the thing that everybody has to remember is it opens the door to a new precedent, and we have no idea the direction and limits involved.
 
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Old Man Orange said:
Wow! Volnation is acting just like they lost a ballgame with all the would of, could have, we were robbed comments.

I think it is time to admit who is the biggest Snowflake and who's cult members can not believe their King is a loser.
Next you will come to terms with your Kings motto; Why tell the truth when a good lie will work.

It's time to take your ball and go home as all Trump snowflakes do when things don't go as they think they are entitled.

Reading this thread is like being around Trump my BS antenna arises.
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First off, I'm not a snowflake, or cult member, he is not my King, not a big fan of Trump but want the truth. But you are typical Liberal that thinks if anyone believes different than you they are dumber than you and must be chastised, mocked, and put down.
I want the truth, sorry you are afraid of it and put party above truth.
 
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GSD82 said:
He had money before becoming President, not sure why this is tough for democrats to understand. Was your guy worth millions before he got into politics?
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No, but he was a defense attorney and they don't exactly make peanuts for a living. Of course he gained most of his wealth while working in politics...just like many other politicians that you likely support. It's pretty common since you rarely find a politician that isn't wealthy. Trump's money mostly came from his dad and he's lost well over $1 billion as a "businessman" and holds massive debts. Arguing that he's worked hard for his success is laughable. Should we look up how many times he's declared bankruptcy? He must not work that hard if he has so many failures.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
The most disappointing is not locking Killary up. But, at this point it has been made clear that Killary could assassinate someone on live television and wouldn’t be locked up for it.

He has kept a great deal of his promises, fixed the economy, he did defeat Isis, gave us the fastest vaccine in history, made multiple peace deals in the Middle East, and also has worked with North Korea in a way no one ever has, and has made progress with them. Arranged a meeting between North and South Korea for the first time since 2007 and the first time North Korea’s leader had stepped across the line into SK since 1953 and the end of the Korean War.

But you guys spend all your time complaining about his tweets and ignore the positive things he has done for this country. Meanwhile the big guy has been in politics for over 40 years and has accomplished....?
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The economy was strong before he took over. Compare data of Obama's last three years to Trump's first three...which is fair for Trump because it takes the pandemic out of the equation. There was nothing to fix because the economy was fine. ISIS is absolutely still alive. You talk like he's personally working on the vaccine, which is hilarious. Credit on the peace deals so far, no complaints there. NK has increased their capabilities and their weapons stockpiles while Trump has been President...despite the love letters between him and Kim Jong-un. It was good that both Koreas were communicating again, but all that supposed progress has fallen apart.

As for Biden, just one quick example of an accomplishment that tends to surprise the Trump loving Qanon save the children crowd: Text - S.1738 - 110th Congress (2007-2008): PROTECT Our Children Act of 2008
 
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utvols83 said:
No, but he was a defense attorney and they don't exactly make peanuts for a living. Of course he gained most of his wealth while working in politics...just like many other politicians that you likely support. It's pretty common since you rarely find a politician that isn't wealthy. Trump's money mostly came from his dad and he's lost well over $1 billion as a "businessman" and holds massive debts. Arguing that he's worked hard for his success is laughable. Should we look up how many times he's declared bankruptcy? He must not work that hard if he has so many failures.
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He took advantage of laws politicians you likely support, wrote. I can't fault him for that. He didn't use his position in government to get wealthy like your guy did. You all worship a crooked dementia patient.
 
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