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Sea Ray said:
Steady decline? What chart are you looking at? The one posted showed deaths Oct 10th of about 1K per day. Late Nov it jumped to 2K per day. How is that a steady decline?
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In October deaths were about 1k per day when the cases were around 50k daily new according to the chart. 2%. Now deaths are around 2k per day, but the cases are almost 200k daily new. 1%. Death per day doubled per the chart, but cases per day quadrupled. Lower death rate.
 
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Over the last 10 years, the most deaths in the US in a year from Influenza was 61,000. Most hovered around 35,000 to 40,000. 250,000 have died from COVID-19.

“It’s just the flu, bro!”
 
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TheDeeble said:
In October deaths were about 1k per day when the cases were around 50k daily new according to the chart. 2%. Now deaths are around 2k per day, but the cases are almost 200k daily new. 1%. Death per day doubled per the chart, but cases per day quadrupled. Lower death rate.
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Plus, now hospitals are testing every patient and of course they're turning up new "cases" even though they have no symptoms.............................. Casedemic
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Over the last 10 years, the most deaths in the US in a year from Influenza was 61,000. Most hovered around 35,000 to 40,000. 250,000 have died from COVID-19.

“It’s just the flu, bro!”
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61k from a virus we identified decades ago and have a readily available vaccine for.
 
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McDad said:
A rate is the quotient of dividing at least two sets of data. It's a ratio. I think rjd is pointing out deaths relative to infections.
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I've never understood why it matters, other than those known to be infected have a heads-up and can isolare and seek early intervention, if necessary.

Regardless, this should result in fewer deaths. If they keep rising, it seems double super bad.
 
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McDad said:
A rate is the quotient of dividing at least two sets of data. It's a ratio. I think rjd is pointing out deaths relative to infections.
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Death rate has nothing to do with herd immunity, so the posters claim seems to simply refer to the 'rate of death', which is nothing more than a number, not a ratio.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I've never understood why it matters, other than those known to be infected have a heads-up and can isolare and seek early intervention, if necessary.

Regardless, this should result in fewer deaths. If they keep rising, it seems double super bad.
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It absolutely matters if we're going to insist on testing everyone and locking down because of positive test numbers
 
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utvolpj said:
61k from a virus we identified decades ago and have a readily available vaccine for. How many get tested for flu when they're asymptomatic?
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Ok. We don’t have any of those things for COVID so why are we acting like we can treat it the same?

I’m just simply arguing that despite what some say, COVID is a threat and it should be treated as such. Shut down the economy? No. Wear masks? Yes. I’m not even lock step in line with the National mask mandate. I can be convinced either way.
 
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Sea Ray said:
There's nothing political going on here. I am a Trump supporter and just minutes ago I pointed out that deaths were not declining. This pandemic is bad enough without folks like you being divisive and partisan. Don't go there
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LMAO.

Where have you been since the pandemic began? Trump MADE this partisan: "Blue" states v. "Red" states. Encouraging his nimwit supporters that it was all a Democratic "hoax". Not wearing a mask. Holding huge rallies where there's no social distancing, no masks. Etc. Etc. Etc.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Ok. We don’t have any of those things for COVID so why are we acting like we can treat it the same?

I’m just simply arguing that despite what some say, COVID is a threat and it should be treated as such. Shut down the economy? No. Wear masks? Yes. I’m not even lock step in line with the National mask mandate. I can be convinced either way.
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What people need to learn from this is that they alone need to be responsible for protecting themselves.
 
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Just wait til you guys figure out the absurd number of 'cycles' they run the PCR test to identify cases. The way they do it we've all got some massive illness just lurking under the surface.
 
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TheDeeble said:
In October deaths were about 1k per day when the cases were around 50k daily new according to the chart. 2%. Now deaths are around 2k per day, but the cases are almost 200k daily new. 1%. Death per day doubled per the chart, but cases per day quadrupled. Lower death rate.
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Whoa careful there, math may be too much for these doofuses.
 
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volbeast33 said:
What people need to learn from this is that they alone need to be responsible for protecting themselves.
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You can still be personally responsible while also utilizing a safety net. To what extent the safety net is used is up for debate but it needs to be there.
 
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utvolpj said:
It absolutely matters if we're going to insist on testing everyone and locking down because of positive test numbers
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We're locking down to a certain extent not because of positive test numbers. We're locking down due to exponentially increasing hospitalizations. The system is getting close to being overwhelmed.
 
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utvolpj said:
It absolutely matters if we're going to insist on testing everyone and locking down because of positive test numbers
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Regions will lock down when the hospitals can no longer provide care for COVID, appendicitis.. strokes etc..

Deaths are reduced when people know they are positive, thats why its done, for the reasons I said. Deaths steadily climbing isn't because we are testing, its in spite of it.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Link? A large number of viruses/diseases have co-morbidities. I’d wager to say those Flu deaths had some as well.
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Per the CDC, only about 6% of the deaths are from Covid alone.

Covid may have been a contributing factor however it wasn't the main cause of death. Patient had cancer, heart failure etc. of course you know all of this because it's been said 10 million times that underlying health conditions play a factor.

However in comparison to the flu we are so desensitized by it ( because its not new ) that we don't list flu as the cause of death when a patient on hospice care from stage four colon cancer contracts the flu and passes.

I'm not discounting the severity of the virus at all, it's dangerous especially to those with compromised health however the drama factor of the virus is being pumped by the media.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Regions will lock down when the hospitals can no longer provide care for COVID, appendicitis.. strokes etc..

Deaths are reduced when people know they are positive, thats why its done, for the reasons I said. Deaths steadily climbing isn't because we are testing, its in spite of it.
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are you going to take the vaccine?
 
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MontyPython said:
LMAO.

Where have you been since the pandemic began? Trump MADE this partisan: "Blue" states v. "Red" states. Encouraging his nimwit supporters that it was all a Democratic "hoax". Not wearing a mask. Holding huge rallies where there's no social distancing, no masks. Etc. Etc. Etc.
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Trump has been elected out of office. He's old news. There have been no social distancing at Biden celebration rallies too. No social distancing at numerous protests. This is not a partisan thing. You're making the situation worse by trying to make it so
 
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