2020 Presidential Race

Sidney Powell was just giving an interview and was clearly shaken. She said she will not be intimidated, and that they really do have proof that Trump won by a landslide. She said our country is going to be in disbelief when they find out the truth and there was a massive attempt to steal this election.

If this is true, we are in some deep s#i+.
There is always the promise of shocking and earth-shattering proof to come... but then it never does.
 
So, we should just take Rudy Giuliani's word for things? LOL. Yeah, okay.


I don't want to take anyone's word for anything.

I want a full audit in a few key states and the votes certified by a 3rd party.

I also want a the courts to rule one way or another.

I dont want Trumps word or Bidens word.

I want proof. And then whoever is elected is the President and we move on. One country, united, with each side hating the other sides guts.
 
Uhh, that would be really easy to prove or disprove. It would just be a matter of counting votes in the precinct and comparing it to the number of registered voters in that precinct.

I know Rudy looks like a vain fool with that hair dye dripping, but no one of his stature would make up a story that could be so easily disproven.
You are kidding yourself. Rudy makes up stuff all the time that is quickly debunked. He has no significant "stature" left. Nobody takes him seriously. That has already been done by the Detroit Free Press.
 
Stop making things up and just take their word for it.
It’s all on the up and up
Show the evidence. All the allegations Rudy mentioned have already been dismissed in court, or in the case of Michigan the Trump team withdrew it themselves. Do you guys look at anything other than just the ramblings of trump and team?
 
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Sidney Powell was just giving an interview and was clearly shaken. She said she will not be intimidated, and that they really do have proof that Trump won by a landslide. She said our country is going to be in disbelief when they find out the truth and there was a massive attempt to steal this election.

If this is true, we are in some deep s#i+.

She needs to spill the beans or STFU
 
Uhh, that would be really easy to prove or disprove. It would just be a matter of counting votes in the precinct and comparing it to the number of registered voters in that precinct.

I know Rudy looks like a vain fool with that hair dye dripping, but no one of his stature would make up a story that could be so easily disproven.
It’s already been disproven

No, Detroit Did Not Report More Votes Than People
 
I don't want to take anyone's word for anything.

I want a full audit in a few key states and the votes certified by a 3rd party.

I also want a the courts to rule one way or another.

I dont want Trumps word or Bidens word.

I want proof. And then whoever is elected is the President and we move on. One country, united, with each side hating the other sides guts.

Do you want that to happen every time one campaign throws a big fuss?

Do you think if all these allegation prove to be false there should be a penalty for those making the actual fraudulent accusations?

If so, would a reasonable penalty for the fraudulent accusations be to pay for the audit?
 

Very first sentence...

President Donald Trump is falsely claiming the city of Detroit reported more votes than people, a new conspiracy theory among the many he’s advanced as he refuses to accept defeat in the presidential election, but the incidents Trump cites to prove vote-rigging in Michigan’s largest city are actually miniscule errors by harried poll-workers.

Let's break it down by precinct now.
 
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In other words, in Wayne County, the number of elegible voters could be 500k.Yet, if you did a precinct by precinct count, you could very well have precincts with over 100%.
Fixed the link and that's not what it says. Of course Rudy and Donny have yet to clarify what they mean so no one really knows what to refute.
Trump appears to be referring to “out-of-balance” precincts where the number of votes counted is slightly different from the number of voters checked into a polling place — but these mismatches are not evidence of fraud, and instead are usually routine errors like poll-workers incorrectly scanning voters’ names, failing to record spoiled ballots, or not noticing if a voter leaves the precinct without casting a ballot, city officials say.


Detroit has reported only 357 mismatched votes across all out-of-balance precincts, Mayor Mike Duggan said, which is less than 0.2% of the total ballots cast citywide.
 
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Do you want that to happen every time one campaign throws a big fuss?

Do you think if all these allegation prove to be false there should be a penalty for those making the actual fraudulent accusations?

If so, would a reasonable penalty for the fraudulent accusations be to pay for the audit?


Until our voting system gets more transparent and more streamlined yes.

I have never once bought a business and not required a 3rd party audit and this is way, way, way bigger than anything I have done.

If the claims end up all being fraudulent then repercussion need to happen.

My personal believe is Biden still wins but there are areas in each state that are found needing fixed and hopefully positive changes occur.

As far as paying for the audit that is a fair question that I would have to consider more to give a fair answer. A lot of pros and cons for forcing payment.
 
Well, facts are facts: ALL but one of Trump's many lawsuits alleging vote corruption (mail-in or otherwise) have been summarily dismissed by umpteen Federal Courts.

Trump is nothing more than a sore loser and serial liar. You want to believe his lies, knock yourself out.

Great job, you went to Trump, which is irrelevant to what I am discussing.

The concept is ripe for fraud, to argue it isnt just means you're ok with fraud as long as it benefits you.
 
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