2020 Presidential Race

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NEO said:
If it makes it to the SC, and I am not saying it will, but if it does they could force a full audit for the sanctity of the Union.

It could fall under betterment of the country so whomever is elected is deemed the true winner and this country can move forward with some form of unity.
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lol

The guy contesting the results has absolutely no interest in unity, accurate vote counts, or even counting every legal ballot.
 
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LouderVol said:
The only shot at unity was a clear cut winner with there being no questions or funny business ala Nevada taking a day off. We dont have that. We wont get it.
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I think an audit will help though.

There will always be fringe on both sides that just never believe anything but an audit would help.....as long as the accounting deep is not found to be donors or sides with one side over the other.

But right now without some 3rd party stepping in this country is headed to a breaking point at light speed.
 
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tvolsfan said:
It wouldn’t have mattered if it was a landslide on election night. Trump was never going to accept a loss of any kind.
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Trump and the actual red hats wasnt, that doesnt mean everyone who voted for Trump btw. But no one else would have cared. As it was there was enough weirdness about the election to allow questions to arise. And now instead of people like OD sticking to themselves they have room to operate amongst the population.

Only in 2020.
 
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NEO said:
I think an audit will help though.

There will always be fringe on both sides that just never believe anything but an audit would help.....as long as the accounting deep is not found to be donors or sides with one side over the other.

But right now without some 3rd party stepping in this country is headed to a breaking point at light speed.
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Neither side will agree to a true third party. And good luck actually finding one. There is always going to be someone involved who gave money to someone.
 
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tvolsfan said:
lol

The guy contesting the results has absolutely no interest in unity, accurate vote counts, or even counting every legal ballot.
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It's not about what either he or Biden wants at this point.

It's about restoring faith in the voting process and giving the average American citizen some peace of mind.
 
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NEO said:
It's not about what either he or Biden wants at this point.

It's about restoring faith in the voting process and giving the average American citizen some peace of mind.
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That won’t be happening this election. They could count every vote live on television, and Trump would still lose and his cult would side with his version of the truth over their eyes and ears.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Whenever a prog makes a suggestion, run the other way. It takes one far in life and simple to live by.
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It may have been covered, but there is a move being floated to hit people working from home with a "privileged tax" to "support" people who don't have that "luxury". You'd think that somewhat debunks the myth that we can replace factory jobs and other "menial" jobs with technology and never miss a stroke and still maintain full employment with people shifted into positions more in line with the liberated human concept.
 
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tvolsfan said:
False equivalency. Biden absolutely would not be publicly endorsing various conspiracy theories and meaningless litigation to delay the inevitable after all the outcome was apparent.
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Publically? No. He wouldnt need to. The media will run whatever story they need to help him out. Maybe some new russian memes, or voter supression despite increased turnout in a pandemic. It's been argued for a while that trumps lax Covid response was to win the election. The media has been bating the field for a while.
 
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volfanhill said:
Not really his call. They choose what cases they want to hear. Again, you are asking for an activist court. They very well may hear his cases. Doesn’t mean they have a shot in hell. There is zero chance they will call for what you asked. That would be disastrous for this country. That last statement has nothing to do with R’s or D’s. Courts should not be deciding how states want to cast votes.
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I do believe that there is going to be a lot here that the supreme court will take on, and it's just a matter of time.
 
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LouderVol said:
Neither side will agree to a true third party. And good luck actually finding one. There is always going to be someone involved who gave money to someone.
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Heard it on thr radio today. What about the NG? They are under non political command. How hard is it to count and verify votes beyond the intellect of current counters. Yea, it is out there thought
 
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tvolsfan said:
That won’t be happening this election. They could count every vote live on television, and Trump would still lose and his cult would side with his version of the truth over their eyes and ears.
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When you use the word cult you need to use it both ways.

Anyone who voted for Biden is basically a cult member also as they literally voted for party and not Biden as he is one of the worst candidates of all time.


The only people who can honestly throw the cult reference out without being hypocritical are the ones who voted for a 3rd party candidate or chose not to vote at all.


Everyone else, including myself, are just part of the problem and contributing to this 2 party sham.
 
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tvolsfan said:
That won’t be happening this election. They could count every vote live on television, and Trump would still lose and his cult would side with his version of the truth over their eyes and ears.
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you are 100% correct..if every vote was reversed and Trump won the popular and the electoral college. There would be no need for a recount
 
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NEO said:
Think this is where we are headed.

Think it ends up being an audit in multiple states with outside 3rd party forensic analyst coming in.
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Your faith in the system is a lot stronger than mine. I think there will be a lot of "answers" that make sense if you don't think about them, and it gets swept under the carpet. And I don't think it sets in motion anything to fix the problems so we don't see them again and again - that's just not how government works. If there is a "fix" by politicians, the one sure thing is that it will make things worse and far more complicated than they already are.
 
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tvolsfan said:
False equivalency. Biden absolutely would not be publicly endorsing various conspiracy theories and meaningless litigation to delay the inevitable after all the outcome was apparent.
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Of course not. Biden has Hunter for the dirty work. Hunter has Ukrainian buddies.
 
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AM64 said:
Your faith in the system is a lot stronger than mine. I think there will be a lot of "answers" that make sense if you don't think about them, and it gets swept under the carpet. And I don't think it sets in motion anything to fix the problems so we don't see them again and again - that's just not how government works. If there is a "fix" by politicians, the one sure thing is that it will make things worse and far more complicated than they already are.
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You may be right.

I just think it gets pushed to the SC and enough of them feel the union is in jeopardy over this.

I may be completely wrong though.

I have zero faith in Roberts but I think Alito will push to take it up.

Either way, this feels like the JFK/Nixon years all over again where government was not trusted at all and riots were common.

Atleast maybe we will get some good folk music out of this lol.
 
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