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OHvol40 said:
I see a lot of people walking around with the same white/blue/yellow simple mask that we utilize in the OR. They are one in the same.

You’re off on the conclusion from the Nazi comparison. It’s not about comparing the plights or motivations, it’s about the difference between generations in their willingness to be uncomfortable. I’ve seen a lot of people on this board complain about current generations being “soft” or “snowflakes.” The reluctance to do something as simple as wearing a mask just reinforces that notion.
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The reluctance is not so simple, it comes from seeing a bunch of hated Big Brother/Nanny State loving socialists and their propaganda media using fear of a overhyped virus to control peoples lives.
 
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utvolpj said:
Not from the govt. No different than those who get a "tax refund" with zero interest.

I would only expect it on a private investment
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I have a problem with the G'ment using our money for free. I distinguish short term and long term (SS and tax refund) although I don't know why I make that distinction. If not long term gain, it is theft. Holding the money while inflation and cost of living increases means that money is worth less when given back.
 
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Sea Ray said:
I sure hope we avoid Draconian shutdowns but here's a question to the entire board:

Problem: hospitals in the state are getting (or projected to) overrun by C19 patients. They're running out of staff, rooms and beds. You're the governor. What do you do to alleviate this problem? I'm not interested in what you will not do. Tell me what they should do

This is a much bigger problem than shrugging it off as 99% survival rate
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My wife said at the end of last week, hospitals from Nashville to Huntsville are on diversion. There is an increase of pts so they are at capacity on their covid Halls (or floors). The good news is that most of these pts are not critical and needing vents and such.

As far as solutions, I would see if our TN national guard could set up covid tents in the "overrun" areas.
 
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utvolpj said:
Is Medicare social security? They're different programs
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Medicare and Social Security are part of FICA so they are part of the same program

The Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA /ˈfaɪkə/) is a United States federal payroll (or employment) contribution directed towards both employees and employers to fund Social Security and Medicare[1]—federal programs that provide benefits for retirees, people with disabilities, and children of deceased workers.
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A previous post inferred that it can't be insurance if there's no profit motive

utvolpj said:
SS is not insurance. Insurance is a gamble by the providers that they will take in more than they pay out. The govt should not be driving for a profit with our SS money. Taking out more money than you put in is an entitlement. Same as the rest of them provided by the govt
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Sea Ray said:
Medicare and Social Security are part of FICA.



A previous post inferred that it can't be insurance if there's no profit motive
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I personally don't care one bit how the govt chooses to classify it. If you take it more than you put into a govt program it's an entitlement program. It's no different than the ones the right loves to cry about but screams at anyone who suggests touching SS
 
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Sea Ray said:
I sure hope we avoid Draconian shutdowns but here's a question to the entire board:

Problem: hospitals in the state are getting (or projected to) overrun by C19 patients. They're running out of staff, rooms and beds. You're the governor. What do you do to alleviate this problem? I'm not interested in what you will not do. Tell me what they should do

This is a much bigger problem than shrugging it off as 99% survival rate
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Give my constituents the data, make suggestions and let hospitals turn people away when they are full up.

I do not treat my constituents like children and **** on their civil liberties.
 
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McDad said:
My wife said at the end of last week, hospitals from Nashville to Huntsville are on diversion. There is an increase of pts so they are at capacity on their covid Halls (or floors). The good news is that most of these pts are not critical and needing vents and such.

As far as solutions, I would see if our TN national guard could set up covid tents in the "overrun" areas.
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I think setting up makeshift hospitals like what you describe is a good idea but there's also the issue of staffing. Are there enough people to care for these patients in these makeshift hospitals? Probably the answer to both varies from area to area. My point is that this is a real problem that states/countries are grappling with
 
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hog88 said:
Give my constituents the data, make suggestions and let hospitals turn people away when they are full up.

I do not treat my constituents like children and **** on their civil liberties.
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Hospitals turn sick patients away? That's not a good scene for America. We don't want patients dying on gurneys in the halls of hospitals. We can't have that
 
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Sea Ray said:
Hospitals turn sick patients away? That's not a good scene for America. We don't want patients dying on gurneys in the halls of hospitals. We can't have that
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Why not? A few good visuals might change some people's behavior.
 
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Sea Ray said:
I think setting up makeshift hospitals like what you describe is a good idea but there's also the issue of staffing. Are there enough people to care for these patients in these makeshift hospitals? Probably the answer to both varies from area to area. My point is that this is a real problem that states/countries are grappling with
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Staffing may be an issue. McRib's hospital will augment the rotation schedule during peak demand. Like I said earlier, the prognosis is much better now than it was early on.

By the way, the period between Thanksgiving and NYE is peak every year.
 
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utvolpj said:
I personally don't care one bit how the govt chooses to classify it. If you take it more than you put into a govt program it's an entitlement program. It's no different than the ones the right loves to cry about but screams at anyone who suggests touching SS
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What about compound interest? Do we get to figure that into it?

So OK, I hear you. So if I'm fortunate enough to live to a ripe old age where I'm collecting more checks than I contributed, it swings to an entitlement in your mind? So what? Do I give a hoot about that when I'm 87.7 years old? What's your point?

With SS some people get less than they contribute. Some get more.
 
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McDad said:
My wife said at the end of last week, hospitals from Nashville to Huntsville are on diversion. There is an increase of pts so they are at capacity on their covid Halls (or floors). The good news is that most of these pts are not critical and needing vents and such.

As far as solutions, I would see if our TN national guard could set up covid tents in the "overrun" areas.
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State Guard medical staff have been activated since March.
 
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