Should all coaches get a free pass in 2020 because of Covid 19?

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GAVol said:
Except.... There’s actually a wide range as far as what the effects have been in different places. Some schools got spring practice in. Others got none of it. Some lost large chunks of preseason practice and some didn’t. Some really got nailed by contact tracing and quarantines. Some didn’t.

Hard to really evaluate where some programs are.
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Of course, we still have the same coaching issues we saw in Y1 and Y2. We retained both coordinators. We didn't have a massive outbreak like some schools. We had limited opt outs. We just don't have the built in excuses like some schools.
 
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GAVol said:
Seriously? We had practice shutdown and literally could not have fielded a team if the season had started on time. I won’t pretend that I know what the impact truly is with respect to the results on the field. We might still be in the same spot. But there’s no doubt that it created issues.
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Well there’s something I didn’t know about....
 
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Miami knocked off VA Tech Saturday 13 players short.

Every team is dealing with challenges.

And I dont think Covid has affected Guarantanos development over the past 2 plus seasons or caused what appears to be a lot of dissension in the ranks among the coaching staff.
 
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GAVol said:
Seriously? We had practice shutdown and literally could not have fielded a team if the season had started on time. I won’t pretend that I know what the impact truly is with respect to the results on the field. We might still be in the same spot. But there’s no doubt that it created issues.
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Pretty much the way I see it.
 
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GAVol said:
Seriously? We had practice shutdown and literally could not have fielded a team if the season had started on time. I won’t pretend that I know what the impact truly is with respect to the results on the field. We might still be in the same spot. But there’s no doubt that it created issues.
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I don't doubt that and it's why the NCAA should have issued some sort of general guidance in order to mitigate the effects more evenly as much as possible. However, many of the players who are underperforming are not first year players and many have been in the program for 2-3 years. While missing practice will make you a bit rusty but we are six games into the season now and the mistakes that are being made aren't from rust or poor conditioning, they are from ineffective schemes and poor fundamentals. This team has gotten progressively worse not slowly improving which is what one expect from a team that hasn't had many practices. There simply is no excuse, unless the entire team was in quarantine from March through September without practicing, working out, or team meetings. Right now, this is the worst team in the league outside of Mississippi State.
 
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landscapingvol said:
I don't doubt that and it's why the NCAA should have issued some sort of general guidance in order to mitigate the effects more evenly as much as possible. However, many of the players who are underperforming are not first year players and many have been in the program for 2-3 years. While missing practice will make you a bit rusty but we are six games into the season now and the mistakes that are being made aren't from rust or poor conditioning, they are from ineffective schemes and poor fundamentals. This team has gotten progressively worse not slowly improving which is what one expect from a team that hasn't had many practices. There simply is no excuse, unless the entire team was in quarantine from March through September without practicing, working out, or team meetings. Right now, this is the worst team in the league outside of Mississippi State.
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That's why I was careful not to make a blanket statement about Covid causing all of this. There's clearly more than one contributing factor to why the season went off the rails it's hard for me to say who or what is most to blame. I just think it's shortsighted to pretend like everybody is facing the same set of circumstances.
 
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You can't make a blanket statement like this is a free year for coaches. Their bosses (AD) get paid to consider all the circumstances.
My concern with UT is that I have not seen any improvement since game one this year. If they were behind other teams at the start of the season because of COVID, I would have expected more improvement from UT compared to other teams.
I expect Pruitt to be here at least another year but I expect staff turnover will be interesting. Pruitt may be safe until Fulmer's contract expires the end of next year.
 
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Florida had to shut the program down for 2 weeks mid-season, no practice or anything, they came out of it and whipped Georgia all over the field.

Pruitt himself said a few weeks ago we'd been unaffected by covid for weeks and it was not an excuse for the level of play on the field.
 
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I would say it depends on the circumstance. I think James Franklin is an excellent coach and PSU looks terrible this season. I can't figure out what's going on with them, but he's currently getting a huge amount of criticism from PSU fans.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
We haven’t had any players out with covid or even symptoms that I know of. Regardless there’s no excuse as to why Tennessee is as bad as they are on both sides of the ball. Good HC can make the tough decisions not hang their hats on hopes and dreams. Tennessee can’t cover over the top or the slants, can’t defend the run consistently etc with two guys that have resumes of doing just that. It’s unfortunate but changes again need to be made.

everyone should be renting at this point.
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what? This is factually incorrect.
 
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keenobserver said:
I would say it depends on the circumstance. I think James Franklin is an excellent coach and PSU looks terrible this season. I can't figure out what's going on with them, but he's currently getting a huge amount of criticism from PSU fans.
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Michigan, PSU, and Nebraska all have coaches up until this year that were considered good. I realize Frost has a large rebuild at Nebraska, but he was considered a home run hire 3 years ago. Frost may turn out to be a giant failure for the cornhuskers. Franklin went 11-2 overall in 2019 while Harbaugh finished 9-4 last year. I don’t feel sorry for any of these programs. This has been a very odd year in CFB.
 
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At UT? You bet. The wise do not jettison their head coach in the midst of a pandemic when they're hemorrhaging money and lack a better coach willing and waiting to take the reigns under these circumstances.
 
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dcibrando said:
really? how so? all teams are dealing with the same thing... if you're team is majorly under performing compared to others... then you're not doing something right the others are
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Yet all teams aren't equal in terms of preparations for the season.

Its hard for anyone to say with a straight face that every college team playing football this year all started on equal footing.
 
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If 2020 is an outlier on their coaching record then yeah, sure. I think most rational observers would put Harbaugh and Franklin as above average coaches despite their current records. However, if 2020 is par for the course (cough cough) and just adds to an already disappointing body of work then, no.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Yet all teams aren't equal in terms of preparations for the season.

Its hard for anyone to say with a straight face that every college team playing football this year all started on equal footing.
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Tennessee had an advantage over several.

Same head coach. Same offensive Coordinator. Same Defensive Coordinator.

16 returning starters.

Compare that with Pittman and Kiffin who are new staffs with new systems at their schools.

For Arkansas to be better than Tennessee is coaching malpractice. It just is
 
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'Boro-vol said:
If we end up losing 6 in a row, can we still brag about having a "streak" headed into next year?
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99gator said:
Tennessee had an advantage over several.

Same head coach. Same offensive Coordinator. Same Defensive Coordinator.

16 returning starters.

Compare that with Pittman and Kiffin who are new staffs with new systems at their schools.

For Arkansas to be better than Tennessee is coaching malpractice. It just is
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And no spring camp and their Strength Coach left in start of Covid..... I'm not making excuses, but I'm also not one to sit here and say that we didn't have legit issues with the schedule before the season either.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
And no spring camp and their Strength Coach left in start of Covid..... I'm not making excuses, but I'm also not one to sit here and say that we didn't have legit issues with the schedule before the season either.
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I don’t think anyone had a full spring practice
 
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