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901 Orange said:
What??? The defense pitched a shutout in the 1st half so somebody was playing defense. U aint beating any SEC teams kicking fgs. I saw the defense get multiple sacks on consecutive drives when it mattered most in the 4th, so they gave us a chance to win. Anytime u hold a college football team to 24 points in this era u should be able to win that game. Defense wasnt perfect, nobody's defense is but we cant keep blaming the defense when the offense scores 1 TD the entire game. Who are u going to beat scoring 13 points?? We had 107 passing yards & 69 of it came in garbage time. 86 teams in the country avg more then 24 points per game and we aint one of them. Enough said.

Let me make sure im reading thus right. Arky avgs 31 ppg. What kinda math says we shoulda beat them 13-0?? What if our offense decided to "Do their job" & score some freaking points.

Let me make sure im reading this right. We should have won 13-0?? Arky has played 4 of the top 6 SEC defenses & they approached 30 on 3 of them. The difference is those teams offense could actually score. If all u can manage to score in this era of football is 13 points u dnt deserve to win. We gave up 24 not 64, thats a winnable game. Our offense is so bad that it actually inflates the special teams stats smh. We are gonna end up leading the country in punt & fg attempts.
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Defense sucks. No excuses in the world will make me think other wise. Yeah they pitched a shutout in the first half. So ****ing what? If arkansas ran slants in the first half,They would of scored 20+ easily. Quit. Taking. Up. For. This. Awful. Ass. Defense. Yeah the offense sucks. But the offense isn't the one giving up slant pass after slant pass after slant pass either.

And those ****ing sacks didn't matter in the 4th!!! Arkansas already knew they had won ffs. They would of mattered in the third quarter but no Franks had all damn day to throw the Football.
 
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UTK said:
Defense sucks. No excuses in the world will make me think other wise. Yeah they pitched a shutout in the first half. So ****ing what? If arkansas ran slants in the first half,They would of scored 20+ easily. Quit. Taking. Up. For. This. Awful. Ass. Defense. Yeah the offense sucks. But the offense isn't the one giving up slant pass after slant pass after slant pass either.

And those ****ing sacks didn't matter in the 4th!!! Arkansas already knew they had won ffs. They would of matters in the third quarter but no Franks had all damn day to throw the Football.
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This. Like I said I think Briles called a horrible game overall; his playcalling was highly suspect. He repeatedly went away from what was clearly working, and when he stuck with it they pretty much did what they wanted. I visited a few Hogs' messageboards during the game and they were losing their minds with how Briles was calling the offense.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
This. Like I said I think Briles called a horrible game overall; his playcalling was highly suspect. He repeatedly went away from what was clearly working, and when he stuck with it they pretty much did what they wanted. I visited a few Hogs' messageboards during the game and they were losing their minds with how Briles was calling the offense.
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Exactly. Thank goodness someone on here has common sense. How you can defend this awful defense is baffling to me. Id honestly think about taking Sal Sunseri back, no joke.
 
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UTK said:
Defense sucks. No excuses in the world will make me think other wise. Yeah they pitched a shutout in the first half. So ****ing what? If arkansas ran slants in the first half,They would of scored 20+ easily. Quit. Taking. Up. For. This. Awful. Ass. Defense. Yeah the offense sucks. But the offense isn't the one giving up slant pass after slant pass after slant pass either.
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Arkansas wouldnt have scored anything in the 1st half bc they werent on the field in the 1st half. They got their feet under them as soon as we started going 3 & out every possession. U act like the defense is supposed to be the 2000 Ravens. They held them to 24 points thats a winnable game. Hell Arky scored more then that on Auburn & TAMU who both have a better defense then us. This aint 70's football. 86 teams avg more then 24ppg and we aint one of them. In today's era even elite defenses get ran off the field when their offense cant consistently get 1st downs let alone score. Uga is a prime example. Elite defense gives up a 38-7 run bc the offense cant move the ball to give them a break. We dnt have an elite defense but we do have a defense thats good enough to win with. Our offense has scored 17 or less in 4 straight games, of course we are 0-4 & u got the nerve to blame the defense smh. In an era were scoring is at an alltime high we do the opposite and its the defense fualt ....Yeah ok!!
 
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Defense isn't that much of a problem right now. Sure it could use some work but when the offense keeps going 3 and out your defense is gonna get wore out fast.

This is on Pruitt and Chaney.
 
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I don’t know that they “suck”.

I do know that when it mattered, and generally when it matters, they aren’t getting it done.

And they only pitched a shut out it the first half because Arky missed a chip shot and the Tennessee offense was on the field the whole half.

Which makes the 3rd quarter all the more inexcusable
 
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901 Orange said:
Arkansas wouldnt have scored anything in the 1st half bc they werent on the field in the 1st half. They got their feet under them as soon as we started going 3 & out every possession. U act like the defense is supposed to be the 2000 Ravens. They held them to 24 points thats a winnable game. Hell Arky scored more then that on Auburn & TAMU who both have a better defense then us. This aint 70's football. 86 teams avg more then 24ppg and we aint one of them. In today's era even elite defenses get ran off the field when their offense cant consistently get 1st downs let alone score. Uga is a prime example. Elite defense gives up a 38-7 run bc the offense cant move the ball to give them a break. We dnt have an elite defense but we do have a defense thats good enough to win with. Our offense has scored 17 or less in 4 straight games, of course we are 0-4 & u got the nerve to blame the defense smh. In an era were scoring is at an alltime high we do the opposite and its the defense fualt ....Yeah ok!!
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Arkansas didn't score in the first half because their OC was dumb in the first half. When he finally figured out the middle of the field was wide open all game, it was game over. Dont kid yourself. Our defense has been a joke this season. Why take up for them? You realize both sides of the ball can suck yeah?
 
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99gator said:
I don’t know that they “suck”.

I do know that when it mattered, and generally when it matters, they aren’t getting it done.

And they only pitched a shut out it the first half because Arky missed a chip shot and the Tennessee offense was on the field the whole half.

Which makes the 3rd quarter all the more inexcusable
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I know we bicker a lot because of my hatred of the Gators but dude you are seriously one of the most logical posters on this sight. You nailed it. Respect.
 
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jamesthesame said:
Defense held Arkansas scoreless for the first half. They only allowed a few yards in the 4th quarter.

The defense isn't the reason we lost this game.
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With an average offense we win this game. We are so predictable and plain. Play action passes were almost non-existent and with the way we were running the ball in the first half these should have been easy pickings. This has the smell of a team (Pruitt) deciding it can run on a team and never trying anything else. I can only recall one long pass attempt. Maybe there were more but that is one of our relative strengths so why not try it 5 or 6 times. They had 8 men in the box much of the game. Stubbornness or stupidity?
 
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UTK said:
Exactly. Thank goodness someone on here has common sense. How you can defend this awful defense is baffling to me. Id honestly think about taking Sal Sunseri back, no joke.
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The same way u defend an offense thats avging 12.7 ppg in the last 4 games. Common sense would tell u that if u cant move the ball on offense at all your defense is in trouble. The Ryan twins could be calling the defense and we would still get our head kicked in. We gotta hold a team to 10 points just to have a chance smh.
 
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901 Orange said:
The same way u defend an offense thats avging 12.7 ppg in the last 4 games. Common sense would tell u that if u cant move the ball on offense at all your defense is in trouble. The Ryan twins could be calling the defense and we would still get our head kicked in. We gotta hold a team to 10 points just to have a chance smh.
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Common sense will tell you the slant is the most basic ass throw on offense and any defense with a pulse ain't going to constantly give it up. I'm not taking up for the offense. They are attrocious. But you're kidding yourself if you think the only reason the defense plays bad is because the offense also plays bad. Lol
 
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photovol said:
I’m afraid Pruitt’s year 3 team may go down as the worst in Tennessee history
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We have said this before, but you might be correct. They still think we can line up and ram it down the other team's throat. We can't.
 
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UTK said:
Common sense will tell you the slant is the most basic ass throw on offense and any defense with a pulse ain't going to constantly give it up. I'm not taking up for the offense. They are attrocious. But you're kidding yourself if you think the only reason the defense plays bad is because the offense also plays bad. Lol
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what team is playing elite defense with a horrible offense?? When we moved the ball on offense and ended drives with points our defense held up. As soon as we started going 3 & out every possession the defense broke. It aint rocket science. Idk if u ever played football or not but u are supposed to play this thing called complementary football in all 3 phases. U talking about slants and other crap that dnt matter bc they held them to 24. With the game on the line in the 4th quater, the defense gave the offense the ball back twice and they didnt do anything with it.
 
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901 Orange said:
what team is playing elite defense with a horrible offense?? When we moved the ball on offense and ended drives with points our defense held up. As soon as we started going 3 & out every possession the defense broke. It aint rocket science. Idk if u ever played football or not but u are supposed to play this thing called complementary football in all 3 phases. U talking about slants and other crap that dnt matter bc they held them to 24. With the game on the line in the 4th quater, the defense gave the offense the ball back twice and they didnt do anything with it.
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Many teams play great defense with bad offense. If you're a good defense you play ball. Period. Plus like other posters have said the only reason. The D held Arkansas to a shutout in the first half was because the offense stayed on the field all first half. You understand that right? The 4th quarter is irrelevant dude. The ballgame was over.
 
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The defense was giving up huge plays in the first half too. It's just Arkansas OC was calling a bad game in the first half. That ain't rocket science lmao
 
#43
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UTK said:
The defense was God awful tonight dude. Once Arkansas figured out we couldn't stop a slant it was game over. Sure they had a good 4th quarter but it only because Arkansas already knew they had it wrapped up. People have got to stop defending this defense already.


YES THE OFFENSE IS HORRID. The defense is horrid too. Period.
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But, the offense going 3 and out puts the defense in the position to look awful!
 
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I mean seriously. Was the defense just tired when they let SC score the first drive of the season and dominate the third Quarter? No. They suck. Was the defense tired in the UGA game prior to the 4th? No they just sucked. Was the defense tired in the Bama game for the get go? NO. THEY. JUST. SUCK.
 
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jamesthesame said:
Defense is not the problem with this team. We could use a better pass rush but overall the defense played well tonight.

The issue with the team starts with the offense and the QB position.

Sad to say considering we have a 5th year QB starting.
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JG was not the problem, please note we were ahead 13-0 at the end of the half. The "we demand Bauer" crowd got their wish, how did that go?
 
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UTK said:
Plus it's ****ing Arkansas. Should be able to win 13-0 against them anyways. At the end of the day it's just easier to hate on the offense. Both sides of the ball suck ass. No side is better than the other. Period.
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Felipe made ways when needed that what good qbs do. We dont even remotely have one as good as him on our roster
 
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MADISONGAVOL said:
Felipe made ways when needed that what good qbs do. We dont even remotely have one as good as him on our roster
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Franks is a mediocre QB at best. But yet you're right. Hes miles better than anyone we have lol
 
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UTK said:
Many teams play great defense with bad offense. If you're a good defense you play ball. Period. Plus like other posters have said the only reason. The D held Arkansas to a shutout in the first half was because the offense stayed on the field all first half. You understand that right? The 4th quarter is irrelevant dude. The ballgame was over.
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I asked u what team plays elite defense with a horrible offense and u said many lmfao. How tf was the game over in the 4th when we got 4 straight stops on 4 possessions?? Thats the dumbest thing i've ever read on VN & it makes me question your knowledge of the game. The defense gave the offense an opportunity to go win the game and they couldnt do it simple as that. Arkansas ran 14 plays in the entire 4th quater and got a total of 3 yards. We got 4 possessions in the 4th quater down 11 points and got 0 points but its the defense fualt. Just stop it man giving up 24 points aint horrible defense. Horrible defense is when u never see the opponents punter. Imma say it 1 more time in all caps "OUR OFFENSE IS AVERAGING 12.7 PPG IN OUR LAST 4 GAMES." U cant beat a d3 school with that idc how good your defense is or isnt.
 
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UTK said:
Many teams play great defense with bad offense. If you're a good defense you play ball. Period. Plus like other posters have said the only reason. The D held Arkansas to a shutout in the first half was because the offense stayed on the field all first half. You understand that right? The 4th quarter is irrelevant dude. The ballgame was over.
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Did they shut them out in the 1st half or not?? Stop saying what they shoulda or coulda did if they didnt do it. I could easily do the samething with the offense against uga, Ky, & Ark. It dnt matter what other posters said im only speaking on facts that actually happened. Arky had 153 total yards on 30 plays at halftime with 0 points. We went punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, int, & int in the 2nd half. We had 3 straight 3 & outs and 1 four play drive on consecutive drives. Idc how good your defense is u cant win like that
 
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