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BeecherVol said:
Disagree on the first point. Alabama was ahead in a game they were supposed to win and while that play sealed defeat, the opposite wasn't going to guarantee victory either. Saturday, he took a game you should win and put it in a place where it was substantially harder to do that.

JG is a year older and played well (for him) down the stretch last year and even through 10 quarters this year (after he was pulled following UF) only to go completely backwards to a point below any point he was at last year when he got pulled. Even after that he got pulled in the bowl game again for poor play.

He can try it I suppose. I think that well is dry myself.
He has a lot more to lose in year 3 doing it, than he did in year 2 if it doesn't work.
At minimum you re starting year 4 with QB questions again. Some of those could have started answered starting this week.

To the last, I have no idea why you would put JT in for 1 series if you know JG is going the rest of the way regardless.
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all this. agreed.....

that's what stuck out saturday is the situation, the opponent....all of it. his melt downs against Bama and UF sucked, but it's not like anyone thought either of those teams weren't better than us. so yeah, while it sucked to watch those things happened, all those things die, in theory, was widen the margin of what was already a pretty much decided upon result.

against UK.....he looked like Ga State JG. just not good. and he got no help, except from Gray.

all the other stuff as to the dynamic of last year to this year, and this year to the future...totally agree.
 
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Weezer said:
We lost to KY in Neyland Stadium for the first time since !984. I think that's more serious than you're giving it credit for.
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No...that sucks and I hate it just as bad as you do, but that score is a mirage..it was not a real blowout where you get rolled by 4tds and 500 yards. If we had just solid play at QB, I think we still win that game.
 
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rjd970 said:
It’s amazing how quick this all went off the rails coming out of the locker room at halftime of the UGA. It’s like the football gods just woke up at that moment and was like “oh ****, the Vols are looking good and we don’t want them too, change it right NOW”.

I don’t think this nightmare will ever end to be honest. Up until this point I always thought everything cycles and we will be back. Well, it hasn’t cycled, and there has been no drop off from Bama and UGA is cruising and Fla will always beat us. I’m afraid this is just the reality for the foreseeable future guys.
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The cycling that has to occur is new mega-wealthy donors coming into place at Tennessee. We still haven't opened a checkbook to hire a proven coach. Keeps biting us in the butt, but what do the fans know right??? We should just be happy with Pruitt/Schiano/Butch/Dooley I guess. The fan base is beyond loyal but I can sense the interest in our program dropping. It's not what it was even 5 years ago. Give it 5 more w Pruitt or someone like Pruitt and I'm not sure it will recover or be back on the national map. Never Vandy bad but more of those ACC schools that no one cares about or shows up to the games.
 
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jakez4ut said:
we're not there yet. to me, Saturday was the first "bad sign" i've seen.

let's just not make it a trend, and while i won't be signing up to bet the mortgage on any huge wins this season....there are still those opportunities to do so. with Bama, FL, Auburn and aTm still on the schedule, redemption awaits.

we aren't to the point where we can cast that wide of net....and i honestly hope we don't get there. but Saturday did get me shook.....really thought those kinds of games were well in our past, especially agianst that kind of opponent.
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The score is a mirage. That was not like the blowouts handed to us by everybody, including VANDERBILT a few times..when the defense was 100th or vworse in the nation..
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
No...that sucks and I hate it just as bad as you do, but that score is a mirage..it was not a real blowout where you get rolled by 4tds and 500 yards. If we had just solid play at QB, I think we still win that game.
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we've been saying that for 3 years about a myriad of different opponents.

that was a bad, bad, bad L.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
No...that sucks and I hate it just as bad as you do, but that score is a mirage..it was not a real blowout where you get rolled by 4tds and 500 yards. If we had just solid play at QB, I think we still win that game.
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lol, you're persistent, I give you that. You remind me of Kevin Bacon in Animal House.

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Weezer said:
Everyone can improve, but no one has underperformed to the level of JG. I could sit here and breakdown position by position, but just being honest, every position needs to play better. But every other position is in a legit stage of learning. Just for an example, I've continuously harped on our OT's underperforming at pass blocking, but I do realize both are true sophomores, and still developing, without the benefit of spring practice or a true summer camp. JG is a 5th year senior that's regressing. So yeah, everyone is responsible, but JG is the most responsible IMO. He's supposed to be the leader of the team. And maybe that's what rubs me the most. Our 5th year senior QB seems to be the most fragile person on the team(mentally not physically). We need a QB ready to lead, able to lead, not a QB that breaks under pressure. When he breaks down, it trickles to the rest of the offense.
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All of that may be a valid opinion. Well, all opinions are valid. But it’s irrelevant to my point about the previous comment that somehow the defense is justified in being frustrated about him.

This isn’t a competition about who is underperforming the worst or least and therefore who is justified in being frustrated with others. Someone is frustrated? Boohoo. All teams have players who are frustrated at times. The good ones get over it and get better. If an individual needs be called out for effort or attitude they do it.

But for us, they ALL should be frustrated, with themselves and their position group. NO position has played well enough to justify them not feeling responsible for the TEAM’s performance. (Except maybe the ILBs?) When the blaming starts the problems get worse.

I don’t know that any of this is happening. Just responding to your comment and hoping for the team’s sake it isn’t true.
 
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BruinVol said:
These exact type post were made a year ago and proven very wrong.

How about we trust the competitive character of our players and realize that they are going to play there ass off for the T on their Helmets and for JG or any other QB??
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Hope you are right, because they laid down and quit on Saturday.
 
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The only reasoning I can see starting JG over HB is that it’s not ideal to have your first career start against Alabama and with a bye week coming up. I can see why you would start JG then have HB come in the 2nd half to get his feet wet then give him two weeks of practice to get ready for Arkansas.
 
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jakez4ut said:
we've been saying that for 3 years about a myriad of different opponents.

that was a bad, bad, bad L.
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You know what a bad loss is? When you give up 5+ legitimate TDs and 600 yards of offense. The picks and otherwise shoddy play from the QB position alone made that score look magnitudes of order worse than it really was. It would have been a close game, probably even a win with a solid QB...I refuse to go off the deep end on Pruitt when ONE FREAKING POSITION is the difference between winning and losing.

But hey you guys go ahead and keep acting like the defense is still 120th in the country.
 
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Blake25p said:
The only reasoning I can see starting JG over HB is that it’s not ideal to have your first career start against Alabama and with a bye week coming up. I can see why you would start JG then have HB come in the 2nd half to get his feet wet then give him two weeks of practice to get ready for Arkansas.
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Im on board with playing 2 Saturday.

I don't know where Maurer stands, but I would give JT and Bailey the entire game.

Get Fulmer and "watch the film" and make a plan based on that going into the bye week.
 
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ndubvols said:
Random thought, but has anybody noticed whether or not Dominic Bailey has been getting on the field much or heard any news on him? I’ve seen Omari out there, but haven’t heard much on Bailey. Would be nice to get both these guys solid reps this year as I think they can both be difference makers in the middle for the future.
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He's one of the 5 or 6 freshmen who have not seen the field this year.
 
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C-town Vol said:
Shrout was a flier Pruitt took in his pieces together first class. A kid who has impressed at a camp with a big arm, but had a lackluster high school track record. It’s not Shrout’s fault, but he was always a long shot.
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Agreed which makes it even more of an indictment on our QB development with him being number 2
 
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