The Hunter Biden Thread

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carlos86 said:
Rudy is under FBI investigation and Steve Bannon in facing Federal charges for fraud. Lol neither has any credibility.
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Well as long as we are accusing..you have like zero credibility with the crap you post..like I said earlier I might start billing you for the seconds it takes to show how FOS you are
 
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dovervolz said:
Where have you been? Hiding in your basement? This has got to be the stupidest post of the year. Who in the world has “dismissed “ anything that trump does? If the man takes a dump, everybody’s all over him and criticizing says he used too much toilet paper. Biden can go rob a bank, and the media will say “ oh well, s### happens” no harm no foul. “Dismissing trump, hmmm give it a rest.
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Please try to keep up.

The people crying about the Bidens grift were and are still silent over Trump and his crotch spawn enriching themselves for the last four years at the tax payers expense. Frankly, the people I'm talking about "dismissing trumps and his kids actions" is, wait for it...... you.

The outrage is fakenews.
 
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Victory over the selective censors...Twitter got their azzes handed to them by the GOP Congress threatening calling them to explain
 
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Septic said:
Please try to keep up.

The people crying about the Bidens grift were and are still silent over Trump and his crotch spawn enriching themselves for the last four years at the tax payers expense. Frankly, the people I'm talking about "dismissing trumps and his kids actions" is, wait for it...... you.

The outrage is fakenews.
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By trying to sell access to Trump? Wasn't that the point you claimed to be making? I wonder why your argument hinges on an intellectually dishonest equivocation?

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In your opinion, is it a disqualifying trait to have your child even attempt to peddle access?
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VolnJC said:
Victory over the selective censors...Twitter got their azzes handed to them by the GOP Congress threatening calling them to explain
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I wish I could be as confident as you are. I remember last time they had Zuckerberg in front of them. They had bragged how they were going to do this and that to him, and he was going to be held accountable....blah blah.
I watched the hearings......a real "dog and pony show"
 
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Septic said:
Please try to keep up.

The people crying about the Bidens grift were and are still silent over Trump and his crotch spawn enriching themselves for the last four years at the tax payers expense. Frankly, the people I'm talking about "dismissing trumps and his kids actions" is, wait for it...... you.

The outrage is fakenews.
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I’m neutral in all this, I’m not dismissing anything. I see what’s wrong with both sides. It’s you that needs to wake up and see what’s going on in the world. You’re just too much of a blind, biased democratic to actually see what’s going on. Biden’s got you thru the nose and you refuse to openly see things objectively. In 60 years, I’ve never voted for anybody because of Party, can you say the same?
 
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newyorkvol said:
So is there any proof that the subject material of the emails is false? Or just the ad hominem attacks on the sources?
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unless I've missed it I haven't seen an explanation of how the alleged Russian disinformation was commingled with the other information. doesn't mean it didn't happen but so far I haven't seen an explanation of how it would have occurred
 
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newyorkvol said:
So is there any proof that the subject material of the emails is false? Or just the ad hominem attacks on the sources?
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From what I gather from the ones on here is that they didnt even read the article...it's hard to dispute the emails and pics...now does it show Joe did anything?...no just that he more than likely was aware of his son trying to sell influence...the bigger story to me is..if the laptop had child porn on it....did someone at the FBI destroy evidence of a possibly felony?
 
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VolnJC said:
The shop owner turned over the laptop back in Dec.. there are emails and pics with Hunter's number and several email addresses. The shop owner has gone public so that's alot of conspiracy to cover up for a Russian hack
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So does that mean it doesn’t rule it out? You just think it’s less likely?

That doesn’t even seem to make it less likely than if the FBI had just gotten the hard drive. It just resolves the issue over the date the hard drive was purchased.

It could have been a fabrication created before it was given to the FBI. It’s not like Rudy’s attempts to smear Biden weren’t known before Biden even announced he was running (he announced on April 25, 2019). Rudy was going around using this same oppo piece to try to keep Biden out of the race.

It could have been supplemented between being turned over to the FBI and being given to the Post. The fact that Rudy has already gone out trying to plug holes in the computer repair guy’s story and claims to have documents signed by Hunter Biden, when the repair guy says he doesn’t know who dropped off the computer shows that Rudy is clearly willing to supplement the contents of what he was given. If the repair guy had documents signed by Biden, how would he not know that Biden dropped off the computer?
 
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Septic said:
It wasn't really an open ended question.

Beyond that and just so I'm clear, in your estimation - the acceptability of peddling access to a parent in the White House for personal gain depends on the 'specifics.'

Can you share a specific scenario would make peddling access for personal gain ethically acceptable?

I'm simply trying to ascertain where the river forks from 'full stop' to 'I'm ok with that.'
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Your original query didn't specify "White House". I didn't presume, hence the more open ended response.

I think a lot of people, including myself, aren't into foreign money influence. As has been stated this is nothing new in politics so there's no biased finger pointing here. If it turns out the child of someone in a position of power that could turn into a financial leverage situation that's not good. A compromised official, much less an Oval Office one, is something I don't think anybody wants but there's no denying it's always going to be a bigger deal if it's "the other guy". That sucks frankly but it's where we are.

In all honesty I don't know enough about the Biden thing at this point to make a hard opinion. My OP on the matter was simply backing up Hogg's completely accurate distinction between nepotism vs influence peddling. Whatever comes of the discussion they are not contextually interchangeable.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
By trying to sell access to Trump? Wasn't that the point you claimed to be making? I wonder why your argument hinges on an intellectually dishonest equivocation?
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That was one aspect.

They did try to sell access to Trump, it's not debatable.
 
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volinbham said:
unless I've missed it I haven't seen an explanation of how the alleged Russian disinformation was commingled with the other information. doesn't mean it didn't happen but so far I haven't seen an explanation of how it would have occurred
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Come on VB its as plain as the nose on your face. Carlos has posted irrefutable evidence that this is a Russian operation, just like he did many times in the TrumpPutingate thread and numerous other places. It's always the Russians!
 
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VolnJC said:
From what I gather from the ones on here is that they didnt even read the article...it's hard to dispute the emails and pics...now does it show Joe did anything...no just that he did more thank likely was aware of his son trying to sell influence...the bigger story to me is..if the laptop had child porn on it....did someone at the FBI destroy evidence of a possibly felony?
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Ok, I don't know much about computer stuff so what's this metadata stuff Carlos keeps referring to that proves the emails are false?
 
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dovervolz said:
I’m neutral in all this, I’m not dismissing anything. I see what’s wrong with both sides. It’s you that needs to wake up and see what’s going on in the world. You’re just too much of a blind, biased democratic to actually see what’s going on. Biden’s got you thru the nose and you refuse to openly see things objectively. In 60 years, I’ve never voted for anybody because of Party, can you say the same?
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Oh I see, you think because I think trump is human scum I just must be a libtard Biden fan. It's OK, I get that a lot for the lazy folks who talk about venturing outside of black and white bubble but then..... don't. For someone whose never voted for someone because of party, you sure were quick to paint me with a dichotomy. But please, continue to lecture me more about my myopia.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Oh look! Numbers and letters on a computer screen! DEBUNKED!
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Yeesh.

Here you go.

Errata Security: Yes, we can validate leaked emails

The TLDR synopsis version:
The story contains the following paragraph about one of the emails recovered from the drive (the smoking gun claiming Pozharskyi met Joe Biden), claiming how it was "allegedly sent". Who alleges this? If they have the email with a verifiable DKIM signature, no "alleging" is needed -- it's confirmed. Since Pozharskyi used Gmail, we know the original would have had a valid signature.


The lack of unconfirmed allegations that could be confirmed seems odd for a story of this magnitude.

Note that the NYPost claims to have a copy of the original, so they should be able to do this sort of verification:


However, while they could in theory, it appears they didn't in practice. The PDF displayed in the story is up on Scribd, allowing anybody to download it. PDF's, like email, also have metadata, which most PDF viewers will show you. It appears this PDF was not created after Sunday when the NYPost got the hard drive, but back in September when Trump's allies got the hard drive.
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titansvolsfaninga said:
please provide actual proof....not forged emails. Thank you in advance.
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While certainly not proof, the emails and information supposedly from the drive is indeed evidence - and like it or not, will stand as plausible unless/until discredited by stronger evidence that the drive's content's are fraudulent or have been altered. That assessment has no doubt been done already since the FBI has had it almost 1 year. I (and the rest of America) deserve to know what they found - or in the hopefully unlikely case that they did not look, why not. Too many questionable calls these days out of the FBI, whatever side of the isle you are on.
 
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Fugitive Chinese billionaire's allies hyped 'Hunter Biden bombshell with 3 hard disk drives of videos and dossiers' in September - and Rudy Giuliani claims he will reveal corruption evidence against Joe 10 days before election

Associates of a dissident Chinese billionaire made cryptic posts about 'three hard disks' about Hunter Biden which would cause 'a big money and sex scandal' almost two weeks before their release, it emerged Friday.

The online post – which mentioned 'videos and dossiers' – appeared to anticipate the release of the cache of potentially damaging information about Joe Biden's son that first appeared in the New York Post this week.

The posts raise new questions about the origins of the information about Joe Biden's son that has rocked the presidential election with details of Hunter's business dealings in Ukraine; demands for more than $30 million in China; selfies including one with an apparent crack pipe; and a claim that the laptop contains a 'sex and drugs' video of the 50-year-old father of five.

The initial posting of the rumor came from a Chinese-language YouTube channel, Ding Gang, which is linked to fugitive Chinese dissident Guo Wengui.

In it he spoke about 'three disks' which he claimed had been sent by the politburo of the Chinese Communist Party to the U.S. Department of Justice and to Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker.

The Chinese-language stream was picked up by a Twitter account called Himalaya Global, which tweeted: 'Bombshell… 3 hard disk drives of videos and dossier of Hunter Biden’s connections with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) have been sent to Nancy Pelosi and DOJ. Big money and sex scandal! may come out soon.'

Both Ding and Himalaya Global are linked to Wengui, who is a billionaire who is advised by former chief White House strategist Steve Bannon and is a vocal public opponent of the ruling Chinese Communist Party.

Fugitive Chinese billionaire allies hyped 'Hunter Biden bombshell with 3 hard disk drives of videos' | Daily Mail Online
 
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hog88 said:
Ok, I don't know much about computer stuff so what's this metadata stuff Carlos keeps referring to that proves the emails are false?
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Again he's trying his best to spin..metadata is like a timestamp..sorta like an invisible watermark...just because it's not there doesn't mean it's a forgery...sometimes they are way off..they get changed or deleted when transferring to another program or HD...in this instance they are PDFs
 
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SamRebel35 said:
A screen shot of letters and numbers on a computer screen. How is it any different than the screenshot of the emails? Unless you personally possess the metadata and know how to analyze it?
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If the NY Post had the emails, then they also have the metadata. This isn't that complicated, you can do the same thing at home.

How to Get Email Headers
 
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