2020 Presidential Race

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LouderVol said:
Quotes By Anita Dunn
We're going to treat them [FOX News] the way we would treat an opponent. As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don't need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.

People still havent accepted 2016, so not sure what you are basing your beliefs on here. They also are pushing a complete change in the way elections are held, with Michigans governor calling the election date an artificial deadline. They are questioning plenty of it.
Whitmer says Michigan votes will not be announced by 'artificial deadlines' set by 'people with political agendas'

And to the last you have the Obama IRS specifically targetting conservative groups. IRS Apologizes For Aggressive Scrutiny Of Conservative Groups

So you want to try again with how Trump is somehow unique?
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Which democrats claimed the 2016 election was illegitimate? Hillary conceded and Biden presided over the certification of the election results. So certainly neither of Trump’s opponents. Also, Whitmer is right. There’s no obligation to stop counting the votes on November 3rd. In fact, it’s ridiculous that you wouldn’t count all the votes, regardless of how long it takes.

As far as Anita Dunn, I’m not sure who she is, but I’m pretty sure she isn’t on the ballot.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Most Americans see him as a decent man who will return civility to politics and not act like a dangerous demagogue. It's certainly not much, but it is extremely unlike Trump, and it may be enough this election.
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I would not call him as decent man based on what I've heard, read and seen. He's an opportunist, a liar, cheat, creepy with female of all ages and had his position used to make his worthless son millions. I'm not naive enough to think that was without his blessing either. You may prefer Biden in the WH over Trump and that's fine but let's stop with the decent man nonsense.
 
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It is what it is at this point. Everyone should be well aware of the media’s opinion of Trump, he didn’t do himself any favors by being constantly combative. He doesn’t have to placate them but he could find a more constructive way to ignore their questions
 
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tvolsfan said:
Whitmer is right. There’s no obligation to stop counting the votes on November 3rd. In fact, it’s ridiculous that you wouldn’t count all the votes, regardless of how long it takes.

As far as Anita Dunn, I’m not sure who she is, but I’m pretty sure she isn’t on the ballot.
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So it's fine going past the inauguration date right? I mean that's just another artificial deadline.

I am going to make sure no one ever gets elected again.

Anita Dunn was part of the Obama press relations/handlers that openly acted against right leaning news agencies.
 
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utvolpj said:
I would not call him as decent man based on what I've heard, read and seen. He's an opportunist, a liar, cheat, creepy with female of all ages and had his position used to make his worthless son millions. I'm not naive enough to think that was without his blessing either. You may prefer Biden in the WH over Trump and that's fine but let's stop with the decent man nonsense.
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I’m fine with all of that, but again, I don’t give a **** about Biden.
 
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utvolpj said:
I would not call him as decent man based on what I've heard, read and seen. He's an opportunist, a liar, cheat, creepy with female of all ages and had his position used to make his worthless son millions. I'm not naive enough to think that was without his blessing either. You may prefer Biden in the WH over Trump and that's fine but let's stop with the decent man nonsense.
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Absolutely correct! No one can spend 40+ years in politics and be decent or moral, decent men don’t run for office much less spend their entire life in politics
 
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tvolsfan said:
Is this the argument you’re going with? It will take too long?
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Every vote matters, or it doesnt. You said every vote should be counted. I agreed. Good luck with that.

Only way to know if every vote got counted would be to confirm it with the people who potentially cast them. Maybe we can have a vote on the vote.
 
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LouderVol said:
Every vote matters, or it doesnt. You said every vote should be counted. I agreed. Good luck with that.

Only way to know if every vote got counted would be to confirm it with the people who potentially cast them. Maybe we can have a vote on the vote.
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I’m not really sure what you’re trying to argue here. What are you trying to accuse Whitmer of that is wrong or unfair exactly?
 
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VolnJC said:
We were never supposed to know because Hillary was supposed to win...looks like the Biden Family Crime Syndicate will be back in the money soon
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I don't trust this article. It's too convenient and doesn't appear that difficult to manufacture. Apparently the Hunter pictures are to demonstrate he owned the computer.

However, I absolutely believe the only reason that Burisma had dealings with the idiot was because of his father and that only a fool would think otherwise, but that's my opinion. And, yeah, I think Joe used what few mental assets he had left to assist his idiot son - probably to include influencing the Ukrainian investigation.
 
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RavinDave said:
The democrats’ power brokers simply see him as a means to an end. And once he’s in the WH he will have outlived his usefulness and will have no influence on policy decisions.
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You have to ask if protections for the elderly prevent euthanasia. Either way, Joe is going to be Clintoned but with a nice shovel ready, going away banquet with all the trimmings - like lying in state, fancy parade, flags at half mast, etc
 
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AM64 said:
You have to ask if protections for the elderly prevent euthanasia. Either way, Joe is going to be Clintoned but with a nice shovel ready, going away banquet with all the trimmings - like lying in state, fancy parade, flags at half mast, etc
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Oh he’ll be retired a hero with all the trimmings, and thanks for all the sacrifice etc.

He’ll get his dog and pony show.
 
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LouderVol said:
So it's fine going past the inauguration date right? I mean that's just another artificial deadline.

I am going to make sure no one ever gets elected again.

Anita Dunn was part of the Obama press relations/handlers that openly acted against right leaning news agencies.
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The constitution sets clear dates as to when electors have to be certified.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I’m not really sure what you’re trying to argue here. What are you trying to accuse Whitmer of that is wrong or unfair exactly?
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No deadline for vote counting is in Trump's favor. The Dems haven't quit arguing the 2016 vote yet. By the time they settle on the 2020 count w/o a deadline, Trump will be well into his 3rd term.
 
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