To Protect and to Serve II

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Rasputin_Vol said:
So part of their assignments is to (blindly) enforce random house rules?

Maybe I'll ask you this. Are there ANY rules by a property owner that you will not insert yourself into?
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Again you are confusing the “rules” which aren’t the issue, with the fact that property owners have every right to remove people from their property for ANY reason
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol so you are saying that police should ignore citizens when they Call for help to remove people from their property?
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I'm saying that at the very least, if you are going to insert yourself in a situation like that, common sense, discernment and pragmatism are as precious as gold. Again, I am trying to help you out as a cop. This is not the kind of stuff I would think that you want get involved in.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm saying that at the very least, if you are going to insert yourself in a situation like that, common sense, discernment and pragmatism are as precious as gold. Again, I am trying to help you out as a cop. This is not the kind of stuff I would think that you want get involved in.
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It comes down to if you believe that people have the right to ask people to leave their property for any reason?

Yes or no

If said person refuses to leave the only two ways to make that happen are for the owners to threaten them at gun point or try to physically remove themselves or call the police.

There are literally thousands of trespassing arrests around the country daily because people refuse to leave or stay away from properties they’ve been banned from
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Again you are confusing the “rules” which aren’t the issue, with the fact that property owners have every right to remove people from their property for ANY reason
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Well, let me say this to remove any confusion. The school and the cops behaved in a "legal" fashion. They were within "the law". So let me go on the record and establish that.

That situation was handled within "the law".

Am I making myself clear?
 
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#11,281
#11,281
Rickyvol77 said:
It comes down to if you believe that people have the right to ask people to leave their property for any reason?

Yes or no

If said person refuses to leave the only two ways to make that happen are for the owners to threaten them at gun point or try to physically remove themselves or call the police.

There are literally thousands of trespassing arrests around the country daily because people refuse to leave or stay away from properties they’ve been banned from
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Yes, property owners have that right and are "legally" able to have those rules enforced by the cops.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
There are literally thousands of trespassing arrests around the country daily because people refuse to leave or stay away from properties they’ve been banned from
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And of those, how many originated over a guest not wearing a mask?

If a guest refuses to eat my sweet potato casserole, or they call it crap at the table, I guess when I ask them to leave because of it and they happen to refuse, that you feel it necessary to come and possibly use whatever force necessary to remove them from my home. Whether it be taser, behind the barrel of a gun, K-9, etc.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m in the other camp.
I have a say. It may not ever change but........
I’m currently fighting the powers that be.
I email Redbank city hall every day over their BS city wide 25 mph speed limit. If I get caught speeding I’m not arguing with the cop that speed limit is stupid.
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I have regular contact with my county commissioner, was even interviewed by the Tennesseean over my opposition to and criticism of our county mayor. I’m just a troublemaker.
 
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VolStrom said:
After reading the last days worth of posts I think it's clear that RickyVol will arrest anyone for anything and that Ras is ruthless!
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Again what are you basing that on? I only arrested someone when I had to. I have plenty of verbal warnings. Sorry to burst your delusion lol
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
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Intent to distribute? 27g of coke and not even a quarter ounce of reefer? Really? Well first off, is this really what we need cops doing? Putting trumped up charges on someone (felony) over trivial nonsense like this?

Barry Erskine Stamps, 56, and Mary Stamps, 34, of Pelham, were arrested and charged with possession with intent to distribute; second-degree unlawful possession of marijuana; and unlawful possession of drug paraphernalia, according to Birmingham police.
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During the traffic stop officers made contact with the driver, Mary Stamps. A passenger, Barry Stamps, identified himself as a Hoover Police Officer. Officers confiscated 27 grams of cocaine, five grams of marijuana, and two handguns.
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