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Rasputin_Vol said:
The choice of how to handle this COVID nonsense is my issue. Democrats, seem to lean towards authoritarian tactics (lockdowns and mask mandates enforced by the same police they claim they want to defund). Meanwhile, GOPers generally tried to use a more softer, less intrusive approach.

There is no reason at all for a person to be triggered by another person not wearing a mask. And there is no justification for Lowes and Walmart to be open but local mom and pop shops to be closed. You liberals have really shown that you are more about "law and order" (with emphasis on "order") than most conservatives are.
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Well, that’s not what we were talking about, but ok, I’ll bite.

First, lumping all “you liberals” together is problem number one. Speaking strictly about what you touched on, personally, I’ve never been “triggered” by someone not wearing a mask. I’ll role my eyes and go on with my day. I had an uncle die in April and much of of my family are never-maskers. They defied state orders and held an indoor gathering with dozens. Many of them contracted covid and one of my cousins (relatively healthy and in her 50s) didn’t survive it. Of course they were and are still free to do as they please, but some simple common sense could have prevented a death.

Also, personally, I’ve never advocated for police to enforce orders/guidelines. I understand that this only inflames a situation with people who prefer to prioritize personal liberty over community, even with a small sacrifice like wearing a mask that has no tangible consequences.

These generalizations about groups of people like “you libs” (and yes, it extends both ways) is why we can never have real, rational conversations from unique perspectives in our country right now.
 
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headhunter15 said:


Bill de Blasio is anti-Semitic.
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I have a warm spot in my heart for rebellious activity. I'm not a nihilist, but I do think that there is a time for rebels, a time for conformists, and a time for moderates. each of them serve an important purpose in our society. Unfortunately, we are living in the time that calls for rebels.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Also, personally, I’ve never advocated for police to enforce orders/guidelines. I understand that this only inflames a situation with people who prefer to prioritize personal liberty over community, even with a small sacrifice like wearing a mask that has no tangible consequences.

These generalizations about groups of people like “you libs” (and yes, it extends both ways) is why we can never have real, rational conversations from unique perspectives in our country right now.
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I think another reason why the mask mandates got so much pushback is that people are afraid that this is a slippery slope towards mandator vaccines. So the thinking, whether it is conscious or subconscious, is to hold the line on the masks and not give the other side a reason to think that mandating a vaccine will be any easier.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I think another reason why the mask mandates got so much pushback is that people are afraid that this is a slippery slope towards mandator vaccines. So the thinking, whether it is conscious or subconscious, is to hold the line on the masks and not give the other side a reason to think that mandating a vaccine will be any easier.
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In many instances one could substitute the term “slippery slope” for “irrational fear” and have a valid point. JMO.
 
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OHvol40 said:
In many instances one could substitute the term “slippery slope” for “irrational fear” and have a valid point. JMO.
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How is it irrational? People like the governor of Virginia have already stated it will be mandatory for their citizens once it’s developed.
 
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davethevol said:
How is it irrational? People like the governor of Virginia have already stated it will be mandatory for their citizens once it’s developed.
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It’s not just governors , it’s the little health czars this virus and the situation has created , that are pushing a mandatory vaccine. The one here in Virginia has already stayed he will mandate a vaccine once one becomes available. So no there’s no slipper slope here it’s full blown government power over its citizens , when the guy in charge of the states health has the power to do it , there’s no “ irrational fear “ he Is literally saying I will do it .
 
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0nelilreb said:
It’s not just governors , it’s the little health czars this virus and the situation has created , that are pushing a mandatory vaccine. The one here in Virginia has already stayed he will mandate a vaccine once one becomes available. So no there’s no slipper slope here it’s full blown government power over its citizens , when the guy in charge of the states health has the power to do it , there’s no “ irrational fear “ he Is literally saying I will do it .
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Exactly. And while I hope that an actual vaccine is developed and fairly safe, we won’t know for years/decades possibly the ramifications of the vaccine.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Honestly, I’m not that concerned about what Virginia is or isn’t doing.
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You were concerned enough to talk about an “irrational fear” of government abusing their powers , odd now that you’ve been shown they intend to do it and it’s not irrational...you lost interest . lol
 
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0nelilreb said:
You were concerned enough to talk about an “irrational fear” of government abusing their powers , odd now that you’ve been shown they intend to do it and it’s not irrational...you lost interest . lol
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I haven’t been shown anything of the sort. Someone mentioned the Governor said he would mandate vaccines, so I looked it up, and he didn’t say that. I’m just not interested in you’re inferences.
 
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OHvol40 said:
I haven’t been shown anything of the sort. Someone mentioned the Governor said he would mandate vaccines, so I looked it up, and he didn’t say that. I’m just not interested in you’re inferences.
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I showed you , I gave examples of what was said by the guy that can actually make it happen according to the government office he holds . You posted an article that actually stated he could ( did you not read your own article ) now you aren’t interested in it . This is why it’s hard to have an honest discussion that include facts with some people .
 
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Mick said:
Does anyone know the percentage of Americans considered "high risk" of sever cases and death?
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At worst 2.7%. I think with 7+ million cases we have enough samples to extrapolate to the public at large. Now of course that assumes that those already hit were a general mix and not the ones more at risk. Which thinking about the way viruses hit and who is sick now, colleges, is probably not the case. But I dont know a better way to break it down.
 
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Imagine peabrains in the "party of science" willfully acting with old, unconfirmed "data" and trying to tell us all in other threads how we're "anti-intellectual".
 
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OHvol40 said:
In many instances one could substitute the term “slippery slope” for “irrational fear” and have a valid point. JMO.
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It's already gone beyond masks. Stores being shut down, out door activity regulated, gatherings limited, unless it's a mostly peaceful protest. You have the governor of Michigan working around her supreme court after her and several other governors have been checked. We've had the government give out billions to their chosen winners. We have Fauci and others saying we cant open up until 2022 or later.

You have to admit we are well past the "just masks" part of the slope.
 
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