Year 4 ... Same Old JG

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k-town_king said:
He took chances.

He missed a few open throws, Way too many.

Still hit 61% with 8.4 ypa and no turnovers with two scores accounted for passing and rushing.
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Most of his completions were around 5 yards. Very little success over 10 yards as one poster here provided in great detail. The 61% is misleading. Heck I probably complete 61% of 5 yards passes today and I haven’t played organized football since 1979. JG made some good plays but the bad play to good play ratio was probably 2 to 1 and more importantly enabled SC to hang around to the very end when the game should have been a blowout. We had Qb issues in the last three games dating back to last year. If we were not superior in the other position groups , we potentially lose to Vandy, Indiana and SC. The Qb is still a big liability for this team. It is the one position that is holding us back with competing with the SEC elites.
 
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I think I could handle a consistently bad q.b. better than this damned inconsistency I can count on from J.G. He reminds me of the old poem: There was a little girl who had a little curl in the middle of her forehead; when she was good, she was very, very good, but when she was bad, she was horrid.
 
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1vol8 said:
Name the qb that faced the #3 team or higher in the country in his first start and the #1 team in his third as a true freshman and I’ll say you got a point. Otherwise you’re FOS. Peyton played Washington State in his first start and my guess is they were a far cry from the 2019 UGA team. Dobbs freshman year he played in 5 games where he threw 2 tds and 6 ints. Sound familiar? Seems you would’ve been wrong about him too with those eerily similar stats.
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Casey Clausen, Andy Kelly and Steve Alitorre all got their 1st start vs Alabama I believe, I know Clausen did and BM couldn't hold his jockstrap. Another big WTF but you might want to read up a bit on Dobbs before you go claiming BM is possibly the same type player.

Joshua Dobbs - Wikipedia
 
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Freak said:
Those who like to debate JG 24/7 might enjoy this. :)

2020 Jarrett Guarantano vs South Carolina
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Its easier to see how wild JG is when you see all the throws boiled down into one video. Even the announcers are amazed as some of his "wild" throws. I forgot about the one-handed circus catch Johnson made. That would have been an incomplete overthrown pass had he not morphed into Odell Beckham
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Casey Clausen, Andy Kelly and Steve Alitorre all got their 1st start vs Alabama I believe, I know Clausen did and BM couldn't hold his jockstrap. Another big WTF but you might want to read up a bit on Dobbs before you go claiming BM is possibly the same type player.

Joshua Dobbs - Wikipedia
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How is what I just read about Dobbs 2013 season any different than Maurers 2019? If anything it helped prove my point! Dobbs went in after an injury vs #1 Alabama. Maurer went in after poor performance vs #10 Florida. Both got smoked but neither were prepared that week to play. Dobbs first start was vs #10 Missouri where he threw for 240 yards setting a record for freshman debuts only to be broken in 2019 by Maurer (259) vs #3 Georgia. Dobbs second start was vs #7 Auburn. Maurers third was vs #1 Alabama. Overall stats for both are eerily similar vs daunting tasks. Dobbs: 2 tds 6 ints 600 yards. Maurer: 2 tds 5 ints 500 yards vs higher ranking teams. Seems my comparison is actually spot on! You lost this one genius.
 
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I suppose we should count our blessings. Last year, JG was terrible early on.....like almost historically bad (maybe I'm exaggerating, but IDK). He improved later in the year. Looked very good in some of the late season games. Then we had a long break for before the bowl game. He looded bad for 3.5 quarters in that one. Fast forward to fall 2020. He didn't look horrible in his first game, and we won. He made some bad throws sure, but he didn't lose us the game. His decisions were very good, it was just accuracy. I am hoping that will iron itself out with another game or two. We were in a much worse spot last year with JG. That's all I'm saying. Maybe a break from actual games hurts him?? Who knows for sure.
 
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1vol8 said:
How is what I just read about Dobbs 2013 season any different than Maurers 2019? If anything it helped prove my point! Dobbs went in after an injury vs #1 Alabama. Maurer went in after poor performance vs #10 Florida. Both got smoked but neither were prepared that week to play. Dobbs first start was vs #10 Missouri where he threw for 240 yards setting a record for freshman debuts only to be broken in 2019 by Maurer (259) vs #3 Georgia. Dobbs second start was vs #7 Auburn. Maurers third was vs #1 Alabama. Overall stats for both are eerily similar vs daunting tasks. Dobbs: 2 tds 6 ints 600 yards. Maurer: 2 tds 5 ints 500 yards vs higher ranking teams. Seems my comparison is actually spot on! You lost this one genius.
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Cat got your tongue again @PulaskiVolFan ?
 
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1vol8 said:
Cat got your tongue again @PulaskiVolFan ?
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Compare their 2nd and 3rd seasons and get back to me. Stats are similar other than the rushing totals where it was always evident Dobbs was special, nothing special about BM running I feel, he's better than a bunch of them but nothing special, he's certainly no Dobbs, Tee, Condredge or Shuler.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Its easier to see how wild JG is when you see all the throws boiled down into one video. Even the announcers are amazed as some of his "wild" throws. I forgot about the one-handed circus catch Johnson made. That would have been an incomplete overthrown pass had he not morphed into Odell Beckham
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That pass was in a perfect spot. Johnson stated he temporarily lost the ball in the lights and thankfully the pass was spot on allowing for Johnson to make the catch when he was a able to relocate the ball.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Compare their 2nd and 3rd seasons and get back to me. Stats are similar other than the rushing totals where it was always evident Dobbs was special, nothing special about BM running I feel, he's better than a bunch of them but nothing special, he's certainly no Dobbs, Tee, Condredge or Shuler.
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You said that they were not comparable when in fact they are near duplicates in numbers. And although you refuse to admit it Brian’s “opportunity” came against tougher opponents. That one backfired on ya buddy.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Compare their 2nd and 3rd seasons and get back to me. Stats are similar other than the rushing totals where it was always evident Dobbs was special, nothing special about BM running I feel, he's better than a bunch of them but nothing special, he's certainly no Dobbs, Tee, Condredge or Shuler.
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We can’t compare second and third seasons dude! Maurer has only played one to compare to Dobbs and the results show that YOU could be wrong about him. They also show that Pruitt could be passing a real opportunity to get this program back to where it should be by remaining so loyal to one qb.


Taking out the Georgia game because he only had two (iirc) actual attempts to run BM had 16 rushes for 85 yards and a 5.3 average. Josh Dobbs had 438 attempts for 2160 yards and a 4.9 average over his career. However, this is where the “eye test” comes in to play. I’ll agree Dobbs is a stronger runner but Maurer is a more accurate passer and very capable of hurting a defense with his legs just as bad.
 
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1vol8 said:
He legitimately wants JG to succeed. So his business approach isn’t with JG because he knows he has time that JG doesn’t. Believe it or not what we see on film is actually the truth. The 3 of them really are that close and root for each other. However there is more to that story concerning others but I’ll leave that alone.

Unless the game is getting out of hand I don’t expect to see him tbh unless Chaney prepares two game plans knowing that’s a possibility like the spring game. Pruitt knows what he has in Brian but without preparation he’s not what he’s capable of being.
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They all run the same offense. Injured or not, this is his 2nd year. Just like JG and Shrout under Chaney.

Game plans change week to week, so the foundation is whatever offensive philosophy that they repeat (practice). And then you use that philosophy in a variety of ways depending on the opponent.

JG was as prepared as he could be last week. His processing speed is still the problem, but he knew which guy to throw to in the real time situations.

At this point, Brian should be able to make those same reads and deliver from the pocket.

2nd half is when we will see him imo.
Mizzou is better than South Carolina...we're gonna need offense.
 
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LittleVol said:
They all run the same offense. Injured or not, this is his 2nd year. Just like JG and Shrout under Chaney.

Game plans change week to week, so the foundation is whatever offensive philosophy that they repeat (practice). And then you use that philosophy in a variety of ways depending on the opponent.

JG was as prepared as he could be last week. His processing speed is still the problem, but he knew which guy to throw to in the real time situations.

At this point, Brian should be able to make those same reads and deliver from the pocket.

2nd half is when we will see him imo.
Mizzou is better than South Carolina...we're gonna need offense.
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Im going to believe you on that one but it’s hard for some to understand that even though all the qbs are running the same plan for the week, the personnel still changes dramatically from the 1s to the 2s. If qb1 is taking 70% of the reps with the 1s then qb2 is only taking 30%. With that being said qb2 would fair better using the 2s in the game (not saying that should or would ever happen) but it explains why any qb2 coming in mid-game almost never looks as good as he would if prepared as qb1. Also I noticed last year in the spring game that Chaney’s plan for Maurer did differ from JG or Shrout. Maybe it only looked that way because BM was having success but it certainly looked like he knew how to use him.
 
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Listened to podcast of Thursday-s Finebaum on my way out of town...caller from NJ defended JG. Did not like Ubben's evaluation of JG's performance. Brought up the fact that this is JGs first year with with same OC. Fair comment. Also said TN fans were too critical. Also said OL was largely responsible for JG's uneven play over past 3 years. I am like who is this guy? JG's dad?
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Listened to podcast of Thursday-s Finebaum on my way out of town...caller from NJ defended JG. Did not like Ubben's evaluation of JG's performance. Brought up the fact that this is JGs first year with with same OC. Fair comment. Also said TN fans were too critical. Also said OL was largely responsible for JG's uneven play over past 3 years. I am like who is this guy? JG's dad?
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Pulaski was recruiting DIII softball players in New Jersey this week? 😏
 
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Anyone that thinks this is an accurate pass does not understand football. Btw 1st pass against SC. A slant pass Screenshot_20201002-230137_YouTube.jpg
 
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LittleVol said:
They all run the same offense. Injured or not, this is his 2nd year. Just like JG and Shrout under Chaney.

Game plans change week to week, so the foundation is whatever offensive philosophy that they repeat (practice). And then you use that philosophy in a variety of ways depending on the opponent.

JG was as prepared as he could be last week. His processing speed is still the problem, but he knew which guy to throw to in the real time situations.

At this point, Brian should be able to make those same reads and deliver from the pocket.

2nd half is when we will see him imo.
Mizzou is better than South Carolina...we're gonna need offense.
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Yes we will need offense that jg can't get us, his ceiling is about 24 points, and I don't think 24 wins the game unless we get an added td or two from the defense. Imo qb is the only position holding this team back from competing with any team. 3rd down conversions were terrible against sc. The one and only 3rd down conversion was on a circus catch and there were many more 3rd down attempts with a receiver wide open.
 
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