The Atlanta Braves

Drew is 21 and Willie is 22 for a almost 30 year old pitcher. One of them and a lesser known player then I'd say sure.

He’s a big time pitcher with nasty stuff and you get him for two years. You have both Pache and Shea, those guys are expendable
 
Who are you scared of in the AL right now?
Bieber
Clev
Carrasco

That’s prob the best top 3 of playoff teams. There has to be more to the story than is out right now
 
Cleveland wanting to move Clev so bad just doesn’t add up man...
Who are you scared of in the AL right now?
Bieber
Clev
Carrasco

That’s prob the best top 3 of playoff teams. There has to be more to the story than is out right now

Apparently right now his teammates don’t want him after the COVID issue with Plesac. He really alienated himself with that move. Cleveland has no outfielders for their future and they have a ton of starting pitching/believe their team can make starters. And they’re a small market team trying to save money the next couple of years.
 
Also, wtf is that Austin Nola trade? That’s horrible

When I heard that Trammell/France would be in the deal I assuredly thought they got either Gonzales or Kikuchi but nope. Traded for a 30 year old catcher with 379 career PA and two scrub relievers. It’s a bad trade.
 
When I heard that Trammell/France would be in the deal I assuredly thought they got either Gonzales or Kikuchi but nope. Traded for a 30 year old catcher with 379 career PA and two scrub relievers. It’s a bad trade.
Lol I thought he was younger. Yikes
 
Its from fans on twitter, but apparently the stat cast broadcast on ESPN 2 mentioned that Pache was in Philly on the taxi squad tonight. If true could Ender be on the move?
 
When I heard that Trammell/France would be in the deal I assuredly thought they got either Gonzales or Kikuchi but nope. Traded for a 30 year old catcher with 379 career PA and two scrub relievers. It’s a bad trade.
Munoz is a stud too
 
Sports illustrated saying it's going to take Waters and Contreras. Seems high to me.

I guess this would make Shea the future catcher
I’d do it. Waters is fine and theoretically we’d miss him but there’s not much room in that outfield.

I love Willy C but he hasn’t shown he can hit and catching evaluation/growth is so unpredictable.

Give me the known quantity in Clevinger.
 
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