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jackcrevol said:
Please 9.5 lb baby, help us to get through this mess - and 2020. Can you pass along a message to the big man who created Heaven and Earth?

People are really hurting, and to a much lesser degree of importance. We are talking about our relatives in 1800's. We are running out of things to do.
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😂Lol, Jack, you're so funny. He isn't a baby anymore. Not sure if anyone has made you aware. And just so you know we are comparing people really hurting now to those during the Great Depression. And apparently Volsonly and I have grandparents that not only survived it, they probably knew each other and may even be related. But patiently waiting for football news. You got any?
 
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UTProf said:
NZ would be an amazing place to visit/live. Nice people, great weather - what's not to love?
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Literally nothing. Its the most incredible and magical place on earth.

But the government is the babysitter there fwiw. For example, fireworks are illegal for the general public to shoot because people hurt themselves.

But there's virtually no crime. You could never lock your car and always leave your front door open and you'd never get robbed.
 
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SoilVol said:
Literally nothing. Its the most incredible and magical place on earth.

But the government is the babysitter there fwiw. For example, fireworks are illegal for the general public to shoot because people hurt themselves.

But there's virtually no crime. You could never lock your car and always leave your front door open and you'd never get robbed.
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Isn't the native population pretty rough on the whites there? I've always heard they hate them.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
I can remember my granny telling me stories of there being very little food along with no jobs so that grandpa would spend the whole day hunting and not find even a squirrel because there were so many doing the same thing day after day. This was in the hills of Tennessee. They usually went to bed hungry having shared the little food that had.
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Mine lived on farms in East, TN and Eastern, KY so food wasn't an issue -- there was both the farm(s) and wild animals to hunt pretty easily but I don't think a dump fight would/could happen in rural East, TN or rural anywhere in the US bc there wouldn't have been dumps like we have today in the rural areas to fight over. That's why I assumed OP had to be talking about a city or somewhere overseas. As for the hardships here I can remember one grandmother telling me about having to resole their shoes with old leather and another talking about how she was scared of the men from the Works Progress jobs (they had a bad reputation as shiftless WWI vets and were 'foreign' to the county) and a lot of other things they went through. I was taught about how they stored food on the farm -- how wet storage worked and how well paper can insulate and keep things from spoiling and really just lots of things because my grandmothers took care of me in the Summers. However, I always thought it weird that the older folks of the hill country referred to people who were from even a few counties away as 'foreigners.' I can remember hearing that term only a few years ago lol.
 
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UTProf said:
Where on Earth did your family live? Most of the people that lived in the country and even many in cities had gardens (victory gardens were added even in places like inner cities) and had food enough to eat although the choices were sparse. Supplies, otoh, were far scarcer as so much went to the war effort. If they lived in Europe during the war that's another story but as bad as the war and Great Depression were here in the US, what you're describing would've been an incredibly rare experience. And just to clarify, I don't doubt your story and I agree with your overall point, I just find it shocking and am curious as to where conditions like that happened. Both sides of my family (three if you count my step-side) lived in rural areas and so never experienced anything like that. They had massive hardships but nothing like violence over food at the dump.
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They lived in Nashville when my grandmother was young. She married a drunk and they had 13 kids to feed. Sent the older kids out to get whatever they could scrounge together. Some of the stories were pretty crazy.
 
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itsme said:
They lived in Nashville when my grandmother was young. She married a drunk and they had 13 kids to feed. Sent the older kids out to get whatever they could scrounge together. Some of the stories were pretty crazy.
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Ouch. Marriage then tended to mean you were stuck with them. I can’t imagine trying to feed 13 in a city during the depression. That would’ve been a sizable bunch for a farm but at least on the farm kids helped with the food production. There weren’t as many ways to do that in city areas.
 
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itsme said:
They lived in Nashville when my grandmother was young. She married a drunk and they had 13 kids to feed. Sent the older kids out to get whatever they could scrounge together. Some of the stories were pretty crazy.
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My granny married a farmer and went from a family doing pretty well (her father worked for the railroad) to borderline starving. Lot of thin water gravy mixed with some potato. Most of what was harvested was sold at a loss to stave off the bank seizing the farm. This was East Tennessee near Dayton.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
😂Lol, Jack, you're so funny. He isn't a baby anymore. Not sure if anyone has made you aware. And just so you know we are comparing people really hurting now to those during the Great Depression. And apparently Volsonly and I have grandparents that not only survived it, they probably knew each other and may even be related. But patiently waiting for football news. You got any?
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Eh he has a point, talking about yesterday’s hardships don’t do a thing to help today’s hardships. In some cases people only use them to minimize the suffering a lot of people are experiencing now. Just becaus our grandparents had it rough doesn’t mean folks aren’t suffering individual tragedies that are as as bad or even worse. The big difference is scale but a dead relative or loved one is dead, personal economic devastation is economic devastation, and personal tragedies and suffering is suffering regardless of whether we are using mules to make molasses or iPads to type messages. And God do we need some football news lol.
 
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UTProf said:
Eh he has a point, talking about yesterday’s hardships don’t do a thing to help today’s hardships. In some cases people only use them to minimize the suffering a lot of people are experiencing now. Just becaus our grandparents had it rough doesn’t mean folks aren’t suffering individual tragedies that are as as bad or even worse. The big difference is scale but a dead relative or loved one is dead, personal economic devastation is economic devastation, and personal tragedies and suffering is suffering regardless of whether we are using mules to make molasses or iPads to type messages. And God do we need some football news lol.
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You're not wrong, but I would gently suggest that we have been prosperous and safe for so long that we've collectively forgotten what real hardship is. Very few are truly hungry in the US. The number dead to the virus is still small, historically speaking. The largest majority of the racial protests in the country now are due to cops being mean (wrongful death is a statistically small problem), as opposed to lining people up and shooting them or marching them into gas chambers. Point being, it can be and has been much, much worse.
 
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UTProf said:
Eh he has a point, talking about yesterday’s hardships don’t do a thing to help today’s hardships. In some cases people only use them to minimize the suffering a lot of people are experiencing now. Just becaus our grandparents had it rough doesn’t mean folks aren’t suffering individual tragedies that are as as bad or even worse. The big difference is scale but a dead relative or loved one is dead, personal economic devastation is economic devastation, and personal tragedies and suffering is suffering regardless of whether we are using mules to make molasses or iPads to type messages. And God do we need some football news lol.
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Misdirection on your part and assumption of purpose. Something about those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
 
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