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BowlBrother85 said:
You are misusing the word "ignorant" here. Such a perspective could be accused of bias, but ignorance? That doesn't apply.

If you are as middle of the road as you claim to be, then you should be able to see how Donald Trump's messaging on COVID-19 has been wildly inconsistent. Some days Trump is telling us that the virus will just "disappear". Other days, Trump is telling us that we are just going to have to live with it. Trump has mocked Joe Biden for wearing a mask in public. Now, Trump says, "I'm all for masks." Trump's messaging has been all over the place. This isn't strong leadership. EVERYTHING, including this pandemic, is analyzed with a political calculus made. Decisions are reached based on what is believed to be the best course of action for Trump's re-election prospects... public health has been secondary.
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I’m not fond of trump and he has done and said some stupid stuff throughout this ordeal, but you can say he bases his decisions off of wanting re election but the left side bases their decisions and views based off wanting him out. The media is the main culprit through all of this, divide and conquer.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are misusing the word "ignorant" here. Such a perspective could be accused of bias, but ignorance? That doesn't apply.

If you are as middle of the road as you claim to be, then you should be able to see how Donald Trump's messaging on COVID-19 has been wildly inconsistent. Some days Trump is telling us that the virus will just "disappear". Other days, Trump is telling us that we are just going to have to live with it. Trump has mocked Joe Biden for wearing a mask in public. Now, Trump says, "I'm all for masks." Trump's messaging has been all over the place. This isn't strong leadership. EVERYTHING, including this pandemic, is analyzed with a political calculus made. Decisions are reached based on what is believed to be the best course of action for Trump's re-election prospects... public health has been secondary.
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The left and right aren’t so different. Their goals are all similar. CNN and Fox News are ran by the same people behind closed doors, one station reports pro trump one reports anti, one reports BLM is good, the other BLM is bad, everyone picks a side, divide and conquer. Corona virus is no different.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
"The virus, they're working hard. Looks like by April, you know in theory, when it gets a little warmer... it miraculously goes away..." - President Donald Trump, speaking at a campaign rally on February 11, 2020.
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I guess you don’t know what in theory means. Also, how do you know he wasn’t going off of info he was getting from all the so called “experts?”
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I guess you don’t know what in theory means. Also, how do you know he wasn’t going off of info he was getting from all the so called “experts?”
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Because there is no such "theory" that a virus "miraculously goes away" in the spring, without a vaccine. Trump was talking out of his butt. There is nothing wrong with hyperbole when talking about the economy, but when you are discussing a health care crisis, it's inappropriate and dumb.
 
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volfanhill said:
Shouldn’t this be measured by deaths and hospitalization rates? We will find out in two weeks. My guess is your going to see the death rate fall big time. Or we can all be homeless:
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The death rate is definitely falling. We now have regimens involving redemsiver, a steroid, anti-inflammatory treatments cancer drugs, etc. But even if those reduce deaths by 60-70%, we're still talking about a lot of deaths. And a lot of folks just don't seem to be getting back to being their old selves after they've had it.
 
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evillawyer said:
The death rate is definitely falling. We now have regimens involving redemsiver, a steroid, anti-inflammatory treatments cancer drugs, etc. But even if those reduce deaths by 60-70%, we're still talking about a lot of deaths. And a lot of folks just don't seem to be getting back to being their old selves after they've had it.
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I'd say you dont know shtt about any covid treatment regimens.
 
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volfanhill said:
Shouldn’t this be measured by deaths and hospitalization rates? We will find out in two weeks. My guess is your going to see the death rate fall big time. Or we can all be homeless:
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This is July 4. The graph end on June 28. The ramp up was 3 weeks ago. The end of graph was almost 1 week ago. Unless the virus has a new incubation, it looks like this "explosion" is, as we suspected, in the young, healthier population. This demographic should not require hospitalization or ventilators.

Let's hope.
 
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Florida's got the best people. Really, Trump should just make Florida upbringing and/or residency a requirement for all his appointments.

 
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McDad said:
This is July 4. The graph end on June 28. The ramp up was 3 weeks ago. The end of graph was almost 1 week ago. Unless the virus has a new incubation, it looks like this "explosion" is, as we suspected, in the young, healthier population. This demographic should not require hospitalization or ventilators.

Let's hope.
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The high for nationwide hospitalized was on April 15th at around 60k, yesterday it was around 37k...btw yesterday was also our highest testing day at 721k tests...a tad below the 20 million projected to be hospitalized originally 20200704_075810.jpg
 
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VolnJC said:
The high for nationwide hospitalized was on April 15th at around 60k, yesterday it was around 37k...btw yesterday was also our highest testing day at 721k tests...a tad below the 20 million projected to be hospitalized originally View attachment 290491
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Yeah but but but but it's not done spreading, we must continue destroying small businesses and workers because we'll almost definitely hit that 20 million by October.
 
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MG1968 said:
So what? Are they in the hospital. On ventilators? Are they “positive” because of antibodies? How are you a lawyer without even a basic understanding of context?
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The obvious answer to me is that they probably never finished law school, but share their delusions of grandeur with us here on the Internet.
 
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McDad said:
This is July 4. The graph end on June 28. The ramp up was 3 weeks ago. The end of graph was almost 1 week ago. Unless the virus has a new incubation, it looks like this "explosion" is, as we suspected, in the young, healthier population. This demographic should not require hospitalization or ventilators.

Let's hope.
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There is no pure isolation of that community. We are seeing a legitimate rise in both infections and hospitalizations in about 15 hotspots. There will be deaths to go along.

While it’s important to contextualize all of this against where we have been to assess risk - I think it’s also important (and I say this as a warning to myself because I’ve had this tendency) not to trivialize the situation because it isn’t as bad as where we’ve been. With a virus, the trend is your friend (or enemy) and it’s going absolutely the wrong way in some places. I hate it for those areas because if measures don’t reverse it, they’ll feel it.

It should be slower because none of these places are as dense as the cities in the northeast. The most at risk know it now and are taking additional precautions. But that doesn’t mean there’s nothing to worry about in these areas.

At this point I would put myself in the increasingly watchful eye camp for these communities.
 
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