Knox County Passes Mandatory Indoor Face Masks

#76
#76
utvolpj said:
The way people wear these ridiculous cloth masks is likely more of a danger than no mask. They are nasty
Click to expand...
You're right . . . but even the idiot wearing the mask wrong is reducing the transmission risk at least somewhat.
 
#78
#78
savannahfan said:
Nashville TV news reported this morning (7-2) that the governor stated there would be no statewide mask requirement.
Click to expand...

They also reported that the Governor's legal team was currently researching how an enforceable mask requirement would be worded in the event an order needed to be issued.
 
  • Like
Reactions: savannahfan
#79
#79
dobre_shunka said:
The average diameter of the COVID-19 virus particles is around 120 nm (.12 μm).

"All of the cloth masks and materials had near zero efficiency at 0.3 µm, a particle size that easily penetrates into the lungs"

COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data

In other words, the gaps in cloth masks are almost 3 times bigger than the average virus particle. And these gaps are the same size in both directions, in and out.
Click to expand...

If you're talking about pure virus particles in a lab, sure. But what that article leaves out is that the COVID particles themselves (or any virus particles, for that matter) don't leave the body and travel through the air themselves, they are always bound to spray particles that from the nose or mouth. Any that are large enough to carry past 3 feet are large enough to be stopped by a cloth mask.

Think about it like this. If you take a spray bottle and spray into space, the spray travels up to 6 feet and it takes several seconds for the cloud to dissipate. If you spray into a cloth, most of the spray ends up on the cloth, any that gets through travels less than a foot. So if that spray bottle is your nasty COVID-filled mouth, then even in the worst of cases, you've cut the personal cloud of pestilence that follows you around from a 6-foot cloud in any direction that takes time to dissipate to a 1-ft mini-cloud that dissipates almost immediately.

If you can't understand how one is better than the other, then you're just looking for an argument.
 
  • Like
Reactions: landscapingvol, VFL1953, JP_UT_O&W and 5 others
#81
#81
wombat7477 said:
It's only a matter of person freedom when it only affects you. When some mouth breathing yokel risks my health and the friends and family I come in contact with, then it's no longer person freedom.

It's not that hard to wear a mask. Don't be that douche.
Click to expand...

Do you practice what you preach during flu season , or when you don’t feel well or are running a fever ? I’m positive such a social contentious person such as yourself wears a mask every time you are sick and go out in public around those of us that aren’t . It’s not hard to avoid people not wearing one .. don’t be that Karen .
 
  • Like
Reactions: bullet20, 84Volfan, Wireless1 and 2 others
#83
#83
DeerPark12 said:
If you're talking about pure virus particles in a lab, sure. But what that article leaves out is that the COVID particles themselves (or any virus particles, for that matter) don't leave the body and travel through the air themselves, they are always bound to spray particles that from the nose or mouth. Any that are large enough to carry past 3 feet are large enough to be stopped by a cloth mask.

Think about it like this. If you take a spray bottle and spray into space, the spray travels up to 6 feet and it takes several seconds for the cloud to dissipate. If you spray into a cloth, most of the spray ends up on the cloth, any that gets through travels less than a foot. So if that spray bottle is your nasty COVID-filled mouth, then even in the worst of cases, you've cut the personal cloud of pestilence that follows you around from a 6-foot cloud in any direction that takes time to dissipate to a 1-ft mini-cloud that dissipates almost immediately.

If you can't understand how one is better than the other, then you're just looking for an argument.
Click to expand...

Sometimes people are so intent on justifying their own laziness, the mental gymnastics they do to avoid simple logic is Olympic level.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JP_UT_O&W and DeerPark12
#86
#86
Specs said:
People make dumb decisions all the time. A lady went to a family birthday party with a visibly sick aunt. Now the aunt is dead and she is in the ICU as both had comorbidities.

The lady also went into her work office and infected two other people that had to be there. The lady works for my wife. Her bad decisions have put other people at risk. That's why it's not enough to be a personal thing.

I cant go around drunk driving even though I accept the risk to me, it puts others in danger.

If you want a football season you should support anything that gets this under control in the next 6 weeks because we not on the right trajectory for that.
Click to expand...
Well stated.
 
#87
#87
TrumpedUpVol said:
Everyone should, ideally, wear a mask in public whenever not engaging in eating or drinking.

The government has absolutely no business mandating this action.
Click to expand...
We have DUI laws mandated by Government. If people cannot get the message and flagrantly Are irresponsible then Government has to step in to protect the general public.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JP_UT_O&W and USF grad in TN
#88
#88
USF grad in TN said:
What about stop signs, speed limits, building codes, seat belts, air bags, ingredient labels on groceries, OSHA regulations to protect us at work, requirements for doctors & engineers to take training and prove they know what they're doing? Should we eliminate all of those things? Are those things left wing and authoritarian?
Click to expand...
Yes, because this is America, and I should be able to be a selfish ******* who only cares about myself and not being inconvenienced. Too bad we cannot choose who dies from COVID
 
#90
#90
AustinMem said:
Yes, because this is America, and I should be able to be a selfish ******* who only cares about myself and not being inconvenienced. Too bad we cannot choose who dies from COVID
Click to expand...
Actually the type getting most affected is kinda consistent
 
#91
#91
GAVol said:
You're right . . . but even the idiot wearing the mask wrong is reducing the transmission risk at least somewhat.
Click to expand...
Sure but but many I've seen are worse imo. Barely covering mouth (not nose), constantly adjusting their used mask and then touching everything around.
 
#94
#94
GAVol said:
Farting in public should be encouraged. What better way to create social distancing?
Click to expand...

That works exceptionally well, BTW. One day, I don't know what was up, but it died in me twice. I cleared a Walmart line. Got right up to the front pronto.
Cashier was s.o.l. Had to hold her ground. lol..
 
  • Like
Reactions: DixieVol
#95
#95
dobre_shunka said:
The average diameter of the COVID-19 virus particles is around 120 nm (.12 μm).

"All of the cloth masks and materials had near zero efficiency at 0.3 µm, a particle size that easily penetrates into the lungs"

COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data

In other words, the gaps in cloth masks are almost 3 times bigger than the average virus particle. And these gaps are the same size in both directions, in and out.
Click to expand...

And the N95 protests the wearer, not the bystander.
 
#97
#97
bamawriter said:
I don't know how many times it has to be said: masks don't protect the wearer. They protect those around the wearer. If I wear a mask and you don't, you're protected from me but I am not protected from you.

Think of it this way:

If you and I are standing next to each other and neither of us is wearing pants, and I start to pee, you're going to get my urine all over your bare legs.

If you are wearing pants but I'm not, your pants will keep off a little bit of my urine, but you're still going to get most of it on your legs.

But if I'm wearing pants, my urine is going to get soaked up by my pants, and you will stay nice and dry.
Click to expand...

As long as your careful about who you whip it out to pee on.
 
#99
#99
DeerPark12 said:
If you're talking about pure virus particles in a lab, sure. But what that article leaves out is that the COVID particles themselves (or any virus particles, for that matter) don't leave the body and travel through the air themselves, they are always bound to spray particles that from the nose or mouth. Any that are large enough to carry past 3 feet are large enough to be stopped by a cloth mask.

Think about it like this. If you take a spray bottle and spray into space, the spray travels up to 6 feet and it takes several seconds for the cloud to dissipate. If you spray into a cloth, most of the spray ends up on the cloth, any that gets through travels less than a foot. So if that spray bottle is your nasty COVID-filled mouth, then even in the worst of cases, you've cut the personal cloud of pestilence that follows you around from a 6-foot cloud in any direction that takes time to dissipate to a 1-ft mini-cloud that dissipates almost immediately.

If you can't understand how one is better than the other, then you're just looking for an argument.
Click to expand...
Or I'm reading research by virologists, respiratory specialists, etc.
 
  • Like
Reactions: UT_Dutchman and davethevol
#100
#100
bamawriter said:
Granted, masks will not catch all particles, but they will catch a bunch.
Click to expand...

Will the particles that do get thru the mask be sterile? How many particles does it take to catch the virus? If a mask is not 100% effective, what's the point? Saying it helps is pointless if it doesn't prevent.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top