BeecherVol
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Glad to see John back around the program. To the haters I say he was DC for SEC teams a very long time and made a lot of money doing it. He forgot more about defense than most his detractors will ever know. Your cute sayings are not cool, they show your level of knowledge about football.He's in a rare spot in his career for sure. Will have the opportunity to coach again if he wants, but has enough and done enough that he can be very, very selective where and how he coaches (I could see him being one of those rare coordinators that doesn't really do any on the road recruiting).
Also, is it just me or does Chief look like he could throw on a whistle and give the squad way more than they ever asked for in a practice right now...at 63 dude still looks like he could bite nails in two.
You are right for the most part, but when u look at the top defenses around the country they all have elite talent. This is why they all recruit elite players. If u dnt have elite players on defense, u are in serious trouble in the SEC. With that being said coaching does matter with or without elite talent.Not to the same degree that Chavis is, no.
IMO, Chavis's defenses only excelled when he had exceptional (not just very good, but exceptional) talent on the field, particularly at CB and LB. If your defense is always going to be less than the sum of its parts, which I think Chavis's defenses were, then by definition you need incredible parts in order for the sum to be high. If your parts are simply good, or just pretty good, but you're less than the sum of your parts, then your defense is going to be just OK.
I've always thought that one characteristic all great coaches have is that they get at least a little more out of their teams than what their ability on paper would indicate. Even coaches that always have elite talent, like Saban, do this. Having incredible talent as consistently as Saban does doesn't necessarily mean he should be winning a national title every other year, but that's on average what he's done at Alabama. He takes awesome, national title-level talent and wins with it even more consistently than it seems like he "should."
I never really thought Chavis (or Fulmer, for that matter) did that.
First, agree it is great seeing one of UTs finest still around and being engaged in some fashion with the program.Glad to see John back around the program. To the haters I say he was DC for SEC teams a very long time and made a lot of money doing it. He forgot more about defense than most his detractors will ever know. Your cute sayings are not cool, they show your level of knowledge about football.
When he played at UT, I heard it said by more than one person that he was the toughest man they had ever met.
In before "3rd and Cha".........nevermind.....I cannot do that. I loved Chavis.
I am sorry, I was not including you as a hater or questioning your knowledge. That part of my post was directed at the parrots not you. I made a mistake replying to your post instead of the parrots. Please accept my apology.First, agree it is great seeing one of UTs finest still around and being engaged in some fashion with the program.
Second, you should not judge my knowledge of the sport based on how I speak. Especially since right after your comment you shore up my 'comment' with your proposed 'I know a guy that knows the guy' type comment... those are pretty lame too.
I’m glad you cleared that up TNU. I was almost going to ask what Indianavol vol said that warranted that response but wasn’t my conversation to butt into so I refrained . I was very confused for a minute thereI am sorry, I was not including you as a hater or questioning your knowledge. That part of my post was directed at the parrots not you. I made a mistake replying to your post instead of the parrots. Please accept my apology.
One was an assistant coach, one a quad mate , another a player. I do not name names since I can not accurately quote conversations from that long ago.
I hope we part as Big Orange friends in agreement that John is a true VFL.
It's all good my friend. I read your post in the midst of taking a break from a crazy, draining, frustrating day at work...I'm guilty of firing my hostility at the first target so to speak...my deepest and most sincere apologies.I am sorry, I was not including you as a hater or questioning your knowledge. That part of my post was directed at the parrots not you. I made a mistake replying to your post instead of the parrots. Please accept my apology.
One was an assistant coach, one a quad mate , another a player. I do not name names since I can not accurately quote conversations from that long ago.
I hope we part as Big Orange friends in agreement that John is a true VFL.
got a name picked out yet? I for one think “McChief” has a nice wring to it although you might face heat from THE Irish and THE Native America for racial appropriations.That is a glorious fro!!!! And check the stache and sideburns!
There is so much raw masculinity contained in this pic my wife got pregnant just from a quick glance.
Even in the “glory years “ when Holtz did an admirable yet not quite good enough job of turning USc into a competitive team He never could get them over the hump & beat UT. I will very slightly nitpick the Holtz 0 wins against TN& Chavis. You are technically correct that Lou Holtz -vs- TN and a CJC LED defense had 0 wins but he did record a W in ‘89 as ND HC against a TN team where Chavis served as the LB coach.Dougvol,Holtz could pronounce Chavis's name.any which way he wanted.to;but the fact is,Holtz record against UT and Chavis is 0 wins ever!
He's in a rare spot in his career for sure. Will have the opportunity to coach again if he wants, but has enough and done enough that he can be very, very selective where and how he coaches (I could see him being one of those rare coordinators that doesn't really do any on the road recruiting).
Also, is it just me or does Chief look like he could throw on a whistle and give the squad way more than they ever asked for in a practice right now...at 63 dude still looks like he could bite nails in two.
I hold Chavis responsible for the Spurrier Dominance and the "Hobnail boot" . If you can't get pressure with 3 or 4 ; you need to Blitz a LB Or Corner. Chavis let Green pass them all the way down the field; when that game was won. I remember Johnny Majors said the Chavis "Saved Fulmer's Bacon", and he did quite a bit; but never did evolve against the new spread offenses. It could be that Chavis was a great teaching & game planning DC, but not as adept at in game. JMO. Glad that John made some real Money at the last; He is set. I do remember too well; UT holding opponents to Many 3rd and Longs; only to give up 15 and a first down! Sad.