2020 Presidential Race

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luthervol said:
So you think the president should basically be decided by 50 votes, one from each state counted equally?
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When we spoke about this before, I made the point that our system was designed to balance the needs and protections of individuals, states, and federal. As such each state should have a 1/50th say in matters which effect states.
 
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luthervol said:
So you think the population of a state should determine the number of electoral votes?
More populace states get more votes?
So more populace states do carry more importance, just not a one person, one vote ratio?
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Because in state every voter has a counter, so votes are 1:1
But at a federal level, lets say TN v California. Per 2010 census numbers California has about 31 million more people than TN. Those extra people are represented in California getting more EC votes, but also gives TN a fair shake at the federal level to have their voices heard.
 
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McDad said:
When we spoke about this before, I made the point that our system was designed to balance the needs and protections of individuals, states, and federal. As such each state should have a 1/50th say in matters which effect states.
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Are you saying that each state should have the same number of electoral college votes?
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Very interesting, do you have a set number of people per rep, or would you rather it be decided by percentage of an area?
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Decided by census. Since populations are fluid over time, continual adding and subtracting from areas of increase and decrease is necessary. As more people are born and immigrate, additional reps would be added (adhering to about 1 for every 40,000 people).
 
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McDad said:
In 1776, there were 65 Congressional Reps for 2.5 Million people. 1 rep for every 39,000 persons. Now that the number is fixed, there is about 1 rep for 750,000 people. That is too many people for 1 person to adequately represent. We should go back to smaller groups of represented citizens. I might have an opportunity to have my voice heard and I would likely get better representation in our federal government.
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Doubt it would help. Larger system just invites more corruption.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Because in state every voter has a counter, so votes are 1:1
But at a federal level, lets say TN v California. Per 2010 census numbers California has about 31 million more people than TN. Those extra people are represented in California getting more EC votes, but also gives TN a fair shake at the federal level to have their voices heard.
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So more populated states should have a greater voice, just not a one person/one voice ratio?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I believe in people's rights before I believe in states rights. If you're a big government guy that's okay.
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lmao Nope, I'm a states rights guy. Needs differ state to state. I'm for more power at the state level, and less power at the federal level. I think that allows citizens better control of government.
 
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volfanhill said:
Thanks for the history lesson. Never heard that argument before. I now have to wrestle with the merits of your point and my hatred for growing government.
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I know. Same. I am for smaller government but realize we need better representation. A homogeneous immigrant population of 400,000 who settle in a major city should have about 10 congressional reps in our government.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
You never answered my question. Why do people who live in metropolitan areas or large states deserve less of a vote than you? Do you have a problem with one person, one vote?
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You keep asking the SAME QUESTION over and over again. Why don't you go online, or buy a book. and read in depth about the electoral college.
 
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McDad said:
I know. Same. I am for smaller government but realize we need better representation. A homogeneous immigrant population of 400,000 who settle in a major city should have about 10 congressional reps in our government.
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I know you do. That’s why it made my ears perk up. On initial reflection I like it. But I need to ponder on it some more. Thanks for giving me something interesting to consider.
 
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Weezer said:
Doubt it would help. Larger system just invites more corruption.
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actually disagree. there is only so much corruption money and influence to disperse. the corrupting scoundrels would concentrate efforts on the handful which held the power on committees. There would simply be too many and too diverse a group to get them all.
 
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Weezer said:
But they do get a fair say. We don't have two states deciding for the country.
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They would get a fair say under one person/one vote in my opinion.
Your opinion is that more populated states get a greater voice but not a one person/one vote ratio.
At least you do not think every state should get an equal voice.
 
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McDad said:
Not at all. Confused as to how it could be misconstrued.
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You seem to be saying that each state should have 1/50 of the input.
If you are, then that could only happen if they each had an equal number of electorates.
I'm confused about how you could be confused by my confusion because you are not being consistent with what you claim to support.
 
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