Tennessee a Tier 3 job

[YankeeVol]

Tier 1 jobs: Great location with excellent access to elite regional and national recruits; strong infrastructure and commitment from university and athletic administration; few financial limitations on assistant coach and staff hires; history as a top-5 program (recent or long term).

Tier 2 jobs: Very good location and/or access to top 300 recruits; no major limitations around facilities, coaching salaries or support staff; the ability to win a national title occasionally and compete regularly for conference championships; consistent top-20 finishes (recent or long term).

Tier 3 jobs: Good location and/or access to regional recruits; solid facilities and salary pool for assistants and support staff; adequate administrative/fan support with occasional challenges; a place that should regularly contend for division titles and occasionally win the league with a College Football Playoff appearance as a realistic ceiling.

Tier 4 jobs: Recruiting or resource restrictions that make player development a focal point; strong facilities but average overall infrastructure in their conferences; limitations with administrative/fan support; a consistent bowl team that competes for division titles, league titles and New Year's Six bowls a few times per decade.

Tier 5 jobs: Limited recruiting reach that requires a developmental approach; decent and functional facilities; some administrative and booster support with realistic expectations; a job where bowl eligibility is still typically celebrated, and the occasional 10-win season, division title or major bowl appearance is a big deal.


Tennessee once was a Tier 1 jobs, but are struggling for relevancy in their league. Tennessee can recruit with the big boys, as Jeremy Pruitt is showing (and Butch Jones did for a while), and boasts strong facilities and fan support, but also a recent run of administrative turmoil.

College football coaching job tiers: Which Power 5 teams are the best?

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

Not sure what this is from, but I don't think anyone can place Tennessee below tier 2.

 

[99gator]

Based on these definitions, it’s a tier 2 job.

The reality is that it’s a tier 1 job and I define that by whether or not a national title is a realistic goal at that school.

There are about 30 such jobs across the country IMO. Tennessee is one of them.

I think there are 7 or 8 of them in the SEC

 

[bigorange]

 

[Freak]

TIER 1: Alabama, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas, USC

TIER 2: Auburn, Florida State, Michigan, Notre Dame, Oregon, Penn State, Texas A&M, Washington

TIER 3: Arizona State, Baylor, Iowa, Louisville, Miami, Michigan State, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Stanford, TCU, Tennessee, UCLA, Utah, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin

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[Boca Vol]

Miami should be able to recruit in a 3 county area and stockpile talent every year. I don't understand why they aren't more relevant than they are.

At least FSU has the excuse of being in Tallahassee. What a dump that place is.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Yeah thats some recencey bias bull.

 

[Boca Vol]

Yeah thats some recencey bias bull.

Well, you have to factor the current state of the program into the equation. Otherwise, there's no reason CLemson would be Tier 1. It's in the middle of nowhere.

 

[SalVolinus]

Well that doesn't even make sense for the definitions they provided.

Tennessee, Nebraska, and Miami are not tier 3 jobs. Sure, they've had tier 3 success for awhile. Mentioning them in the same tier as Baylor, Louisville, and Arizona State is comical.

The fact that we routinely land Top 10 in recruiting classes, attendance, and revenue in the midst of a down period proves as much.

 

[SalVolinus]

Also - anyone have the full list?

 

[dcm3w]

Miami should be able to recruit in a 3 county area and stockpile talent every year. I don't understand why they aren't more relevant than they are.

At least FSU has the excuse of being in Tallahassee. What a dump that place is.

IMO, Miami is similar to us. They were once great but fell off the horse and repeatedly struggled to get back on. They get back on that horse only to find themselves falling off of it which can be said about the past 15 years for us.

I wonder if FSU or Miami would benefit by moving to the SEC?

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

Tier 1 jobs: Great location with excellent access to elite regional and national recruits; strong infrastructure and commitment from university and athletic administration; few financial limitations on assistant coach and staff hires; history as a top-5 program (recent or long term).

Tier 2 jobs: Very good location and/or access to top 300 recruits; no major limitations around facilities, coaching salaries or support staff; the ability to win a national title occasionally and compete regularly for conference championships; consistent top-20 finishes (recent or long term).

Tier 3 jobs: Good location and/or access to regional recruits; solid facilities and salary pool for assistants and support staff; adequate administrative/fan support with occasional challenges; a place that should regularly contend for division titles and occasionally win the league with a College Football Playoff appearance as a realistic ceiling.

Tier 4 jobs: Recruiting or resource restrictions that make player development a focal point; strong facilities but average overall infrastructure in their conferences; limitations with administrative/fan support; a consistent bowl team that competes for division titles, league titles and New Year's Six bowls a few times per decade.

Tier 5 jobs: Limited recruiting reach that requires a developmental approach; decent and functional facilities; some administrative and booster support with realistic expectations; a job where bowl eligibility is still typically celebrated, and the occasional 10-win season, division title or major bowl appearance is a big deal.


Tennessee once was a Tier 1 jobs, but are struggling for relevancy in their league. Tennessee can recruit with the big boys, as Jeremy Pruitt is showing (and Butch Jones did for a while), and boasts strong facilities and fan support, but also a recent run of administrative turmoil.

College football coaching job tiers: Which Power 5 teams are the best?

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Based on these definitions, it’s a tier 2 job.

The reality is that it’s a tier 1 job and I define that by whether or not a national title is a realistic goal at that school.

There are about 30 such jobs across the country IMO. Tennessee is one of them.

I think there are 7 or 8 of them in the SEC

Yeah and the thing that separates tier 2 from tier one is great coaching.

Like if we had Nick Saban since 2007 we would be firmly in tier 1.

 

[VolGee4]

Well that doesn't even make sense for the definitions they provided.

Tennessee, Nebraska, and Miami are not tier 3 jobs. Sure, they've had tier 3 success for awhile. Mentioning them in the same tier as Baylor, Louisville, and Arizona State is comical.

The fact that we routinely land Top 10 in recruiting classes, attendance, and revenue in the midst of a down period proves as much.

Yea, I think people could make reasonable arguments for tier 2 and tier 3 based on the definitions. Then, when you look at the list, UT is no way tier 3. Baylor, Louisville, and Arizona State don't compare to UT. Nor does Stanford or TCU.

 

[YankeeVol]

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I just didn’t want to post too much from a Plus article lol

 

[Tin Man]

Tennessee has Knoxville as a location. The combination of elevation and latitude provide for perfect seasons, each ~3 months. Entertainment, food, nature - the Great Smokey Mountains National Park is right next door. The Tennessee River. The Volunteer Navy. The volunteer spirit. Loyalty. UT's student body is more diverse than the national average, and the male/female balance is just about even. Frack the rest of those institutions of higher learning. UT is heaven on earth. GBO.

 

[The Original Fade]

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We are not in the same bracket as Iowa or Louisville and Utah in any shape or form, and Washington and Oregon are not better jobs than UT. Can’t argue with tier 1

 

[golfballs]

The best indication of what kind of job it is, is who we’re able to hire.

 

[Illinoisvolfan2]

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Lumping is in with those is an insult

 

[Rabid Vol]

So the only thing lacking is consistent winning and we’re tier 1?? espn needs to revisit their tier criteria

 

[Rabid Vol]

We are not in the same bracket as Iowa or Louisville and Utah in any shape or form, and Washington and Oregon are not better jobs than UT. Can’t argue with tier 1

USC? Irrelevant

 

[FLVOL_79]

They have Alabama, Florida, and Oklahoma as meeting the great location requirement?

 

[Concept]

If the criterion is recent success, they shouldn't bother evaluating things like facilities or fan support. Just let a computer add up the season-ending poll rankings and be done with. We are well aware of our recent lack of success, thank you very much.

 

[Pump Guy]

I refuse to open the link, so I will rest on what was posted.

Tennessee has 5 of the 20 top paid assistants in the SEC
Tennessee is in the Top 10 all time wins (I am not counting Yale or Harvard)
Tennessee is in the Top 10 all time bowl wins
Tennessee in in the Top 5 in attendance (historically 2)
Tennessee is in the Top 10 in expenditures for an athletic department
Tennessee is "historically" Top 10 in recruiting rankings
Tennessee's roster is typically 50% out of state
Tennessee has several national championships

There will be many who point out the absurdity of which teams are where, so I will not go there.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

We're a worse job than Washington? ok