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evillawyer said:
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You know what's interesting the 5 states shown in the graphs make up 54% of the COVID-19 death for the US.

As of right now the US does not have a CV problem. If you were to look at the US excluding these 5 states the US REALLY does not have a CV problem. Stop treating the rest of the US like they are these 5 states or NYC. Open them up especially to those who are under 40 and have no pre-existing conditions, let people live their lives and we will get on our way to developing herd immunity with little impact.
 
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NCFisher said:
Neither here nor there. It's simply premature conjecture to declare the chosen path, the correct path. Why not overreact by having the susceptible quarantine, instead of destroying millions of lives financially? How has the virtual shutdown of the most of the healthcare system in deference to C19, impacted perhaps that many more mentally and physically?

Those are lives, too.
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Speaking from my limited experience in surgery, it’s definitely created a backlog of patients needing total joint replacement surgery.

In my estimation though, you probably want to limit exposure to covid-19 to older patients, most joint replacement patients are 65 or older so you don’t want them in a hospital for long periods of time increasing their risk of exposure.

Starting Monday they are allowing surgery on ambulatory patients that are healthy, under 65 and not staying longer than 24 hours in the hospital.
 
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#49,903
Smokey'sHandler said:
You know what's interesting the 5 states shown in the graphs make up 54% of the COVID-19 death for the US.

As of right now the US does not have a CV problem. If you were to look at the US excluding these 5 states the US REALLY does not have a CV problem. Stop treating the rest of the US like they are these 5 states or NYC. Open them up especially to those who are under 40 and have no pre-existing conditions, let people live their lives and we will get on our way to developing herd immunity with little impact.
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Doesn't fit the nanny state narrative of the left.
 
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utvolpj said:
Makes yours. Is 85k now an acceptable trade for a very long recovery? Maybe we shouldn't have panicked and handled this much differently?

We added zero leadership to the world and aided in a global economic shutdown. That will potentially cost the lives of hundreds of millions.
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hundreds of millions. gtfoh
 
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rjd970 said:
I have a bridge to sell you if you believe there will be 85K people that die due to CV. If we are simply using a positive test to categorize a CV death, I'm surprised it won't be more than 85K.
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And many are not being classified correctly. What is your point
 
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LouderVol said:
Or like reported people couldnt get other needed medical care, suicide from job loss and freak out, or just stupidity of people being stuck at home.
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Color me surprised. I didn't think you cared about people getting the medical care they needed. People unable to get the care they need because they don't have insurance doesn't bother you in the least.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
hundreds of millions. gtfoh
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"We can expect more global deaths due to secondary impacts of COVID-19 than the virus itself — the World Food Program currently estimates that 265 million will be on the brink of starvation by the end of the year."
At the beginning of 2020, some 130 million were already facing dire levels of hunger. That figure could now more than double the number of people facing acute hunger to 265 million by the end of this year.
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UN warns coronavirus fallout will lead to the next pandemic – global starvation
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
UN warns coronavirus fallout will lead to the next pandemic – global starvation

While the World Health Organization warns that stringent guidelines need to stay in place to combat the spread of COVID-19, fellow United Nations agency World Food Program (WFP) believes that it will lead to an uptick in global poverty and starvation, and the response to the virus itself may end up killing more people by the end of 2020.
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At least they won't die of C19!!!!
 
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VolStrom said:
Nearly 70 Dead in 'Horrific' Outbreak at Holyoke Soldiers' Home
This is why government healthcare sucks.
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Outbreaks in long term care facilities are almost always going to be bad, we’ve at least one here in Tennessee. It’s a cramped population and communicable diseases are going to spread quickly in setting like that. It’s not necessarily a reflection of government healthcare, but the confined spaces those patients are living in.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Color me surprised. I didn't think you cared about people getting the medical care they needed. People unable to get the care they need because they don't have insurance doesn't bother you in the least.
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Government mandated shutdowns tend to cause more outrage in me than people not applying themselves to their own betterment, so yes you are correct.

If I die because of my own stupidity, nobody, least of all me, should be upset.
If someone else dies because of their own actions, nobody should be upset.
If people die because the government says they cant work/interact/get medical care everybody should be upset.

Really what we are seeing with Covid is a taste of what happens when the governments have to shut off services under socialism.

At least in my world one person's actions dont screw it up for the rest of us. But thanks for putting everyone in this sinking boat with you because the government decided it needed more power.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Outbreaks in long term care facilities are almost always going to be bad, we’ve at least one here in Tennessee. It’s a cramped population and communicable diseases are going to spread quickly in setting like that. It’s not necessarily a reflection of government healthcare, but the confined spaces those patients are living in.
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BS, it's all about government healthcare. No where else in the country did they have a mass killing of residents like they did in this place and it just happens to be a veterans administration facility? Dream on if you think these men were cared for like they should have been.
 
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LouderVol said:
Our supply chain will not last another month of this.

Tyson chicken on the big end has already been faced with difficulties. A ton of the mid range guys are already running out of widgets, and the small have bern shut down just due to the sick and limitations on testing and PPE.
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Another month of what exactly, the reopening, the shutdown, testing shortcomings ?
 
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McDad said:
The egg on their face will hardly be noticeable when they start pounding the drum of dire economic circumstances. Viral panic, economic panic, election panic, etc.
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In fact, I look for it to become journo agit-prop to put a fried egg on one's face, term it Expellant Avian leprosy and blame Trump. Egg stocks will soar as college leftists wear them like berets and silkscreen splattered yolks on commie red/green t-shirts. (stock tip: short the CheStore now Che Guevara Store | The One Stop Che Shop!)
 
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