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CreiveHallVol said:
Bill Gates worked with WHO to secretly sterilize people in 3rd world countries through vaccinations. I'm not a conspiracy guy. Those are actual facts that the WHO owned up to. I think, like most people, he is complicated. He has done a ton of good.
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That conspiracy theory has been around even without Gates for a quarter century and is repeatedly debunked every several years when it pops up again. It started with some anti-contraceptive group seizing on a scientific paper describing the efforts of some Indian researchers who were trying to develop a longer term contraceptive by tying variants of diphtheria and tetanus toxins to hCG so that a woman's immune system would be trained to attack the hCG and prevent pregnancy for up to 2 years.

The anti-contraceptive group spun it as evidence of a nefarious plot to sterilize people in Mexico, and every so often some group of anti-contraceptive people or anti-vaxxers or just general conspiracy theorists brew up a similar claim with vaccination programs in another country. Kenya was just one of the more recent ones but it's an old story that never had anything close to proof. WHO has repeatedly refuted it as well.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
I think we can all agree on that, but the discussion has not been about what we consider slavery in the 21st century, but how pro-slavers viewed slavery in 1860. And to antebellum pro-slavers a slave was property, slavery was protected by the Constitution, so to them slavery was very much a states' right issue.
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Very well stated again, Ivan.
 
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volatil said:
That’s awesome. Be loyal to that company.
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No doubt. I'm 37 and have been with this company for 15 months. Owners, management and co-workers are all great people.

It's a very interesting niche market and we do business all over the world but still have a small business structure. It is the only job I've ever had that I thoroughly enjoy every day and I've quickly been given opportunity to advance. I also love living/working in the St. Augustine area.

Safe to say I will be here until I retire.
 
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SSVol said:
No desire to interrupt the Tiger/Jack debate, but I'm quite convinced that C-19 can be greatly tamed by Vit D. I keep coming back to Iceland. Vitamin D supplementation is critical in Nordic countries, and they do so regularly through food and pills. Their mortality rate is hanging there at about 0.4%. Every major region or population group that has been particularly bad is also known for having low Vitamin D. Every one. There were studies done on the 1918 Spanish Flu that concluded that Vitamin D greatly reduced mortality. Black Americans are dying at a rate double their population representation, and they are known for having D deficiency at more than 2x white Americans. In addition to improving immunity, Vit D also modulates the release of inflammatory cytokines, which is what is killing people now (not the virus), and what what killed them in 1918.

Guys, the vaccine already exists. It's Vitamin D. The summertime sun doesn't kill the flu, the summertime sun makes us immune to the flu.
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Great info, man!! Makes a lot of sense about Vit D and why the flu mutates in summer and doesn’t die, then ramps back up in fall.
 
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Speaking of morans, went to a local market a few minutes ago and a couple of young men, who both appeared to be around 21-24, pulled up in the handicapped spot, both got out and were walking toward the door just as I was. One of them reached the door a 2nd before I did. Neither the guy opening the door nor his friend offered to let my 60 yr old arse enter and were just as oblivious to what was going on around them as a dead skunk in the road. I have no use for such pure disrespect as they possessed.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
My $0.02

There’s a “stain” on every generation of human beings. Vegans probably think our eating beef, poultry, and bacon, etc., is unconscionable. Time will tell who is right. Many folks think women terminating their pregnancies before childbirth will not be viewed favorably some time distant from now. The decimation of the Native American populations isn’t universally viewed as our finest hour. There are probably countless grievances we can hold against historical generations but I think it’s probably best just to try to learn from history and work to build a better world. The future is likely to condemn us for things we accept today which may be unimaginable in that future time. Slavery, for example didn’t start in the western hemisphere and the institution was thousands of years old. The end of slavery in America was a turning point in the millennia of things. I see that as an achievement of our Republic. At this point, I personally think the only thing I’m going to have to answer to future generations for is my fondness for prime rib, country ham, bbq chicken, savory catfish, and maybe my gas guzzling road machines. jmo.
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I would like to point out that eating beef is fighting global warming by ridding the world of those evil, methane producing cows. That makes me an eco-warrior.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
12 pack a coke zeros a day
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Weezer said:
Doesn't light me off, but I would contend you're wrong in some of your assumptions. The Constitution was written "in order to form a more perfect Union". The original states united for the benefit of all. Whether or not it was written into the Constitution, I think there was an implicit understanding that states had the freedom to leave the Union if they felt their needs weren't being met. When the Constitution was first presented, it took nine states ratifying it for it to become effective, and any state that did not ratify it would not be part of this new union. Joining was a choice, which implies to me that leaving was a choice as well. The federal government was not designed to be a new monarchy, the very thing our FFs fought against. JMO, but that idea was born with Lincoln and the Civil War, and cemented with all the programs of FDR. Somewhere along the way of our history, the importance of state's rights, which were considered so valuable by our FFs, was forgotten. When the Constitutional Congress was formed, it involved representatives from every state, arguing for the rights of their states.

As for the Civil War being all about slavery, slavery was a big part, just not the only part. Not every Southerner who fought was a slave owner. Many Southerners simply fought for their homes. Many didn't believe the federal government had the right to dictate to them what was legal or illegal, be it slavery or anything else. Slavery was an evil institution, as I have previously stated, so understand my next comparison is about the idea of state rights, and not an actual comparison with slavery. Certain states have legalized marijuana despite it being illegal at the federal level. Do they have that right? Should they have that right? Or should federal law trump all and those states be punished? Again, not comparing slavery and legalized marijuana, just the idea that states should be allowed to make their own decisions.

I will never defend slavery. I'm glad it ended, even if it took a war to do it. But should the federal government be allowed to dictate to states what they can or cannot do? That was a huge part of the Civil War. Yes, it involved slavery, but overall, it was about whether or not the federal government had the right to force states into compliance. I don't think the Constitution allows for that, but Lincoln did it any way. This goes beyond slavery, but slavery always gets the headline, causing people to ignore all the underlying currents that were there.
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When the biggest part of your argument is implicit understanding and implies to me, you should possibly consider that that implies your argument is weak.
 
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The Dog said:
Competition? Jack had to beat guys like Arnold Palmer, Tom Watson, Lee Trevino and Gary Player, 5 of the greatest golfers of all time. Woods never really had any competition early in his career. Mickelson was/is Tiger's main rival, I guess ? So, comp favors Jack, imo. Woods brought all that crap on himself, should have kept it in his pants or not marry. Woods won't catch Jack, now. With all that said, I would still say Woods is the GOAT, but it's definitely debatable
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You named 5. Tiger did it against 3-4 times that number every week.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
Well , your dad may be right. But you need to expose yourself to more pre-Tiger golf before you personally can make the “not even debatable” judgment. You’re essentially just assuming that Tiger is better.
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Please don't ever ask anyone on here to expose themselves ever again.
 
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drvenner said:
When the biggest part of your argument is implicit understanding and implies to me, you should possibly consider that that implies your argument is weak.
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You can present your own argument or interpretation if you like. No one's stopping you.
 
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Vols4us said:
Nope. Obviously not a golfer. Level of competition during the eras, differences in equipment, as well as the number of second place finishes in addition to wins in the majors tell a different story. The golf world said the same thing about Nicklaus in his prime. Nicklaus was a bomber as well. His iron play far surpassed Tiger's. Tiger is a better putter and chipping around the green. Jack had serious eye problems and in his late 30's and 40's had no depth perception - which made the Masters win at age 46 even more phenomenal. He did not have the advantages of LASIK eye surgery multiple times like Tiger has - it did not exist. Most of the time he had to be told by his caddie where the shot ended up. Totally dependent on the caddie for distances. Just like Tiger did after him, he made serious modifications in his swing to fit his physical condition multiple times. Jack had serious left hip issues that affected his swing and his back in his early 20's. His back was so bad he took many cortisone injections as a 19 year old. Tiger has serious neck and knee problems that affected him in a similar way.

Look at the 82 wins. How many are concentrated into a handful of tournaments/courses. Buick Invitational, Firestone/Bridgestone, Torey Pines tourneys, etc. Because of his success in the majors, Tiger was able to refine his schedule to playing courses his game fit more so than any player during his era. It helped to have Nike bankrolling his life from the beginning. Nicklaus had to create his own brands and business interests, which took away practice and playing time. There were no big sponsor contracts back then. The Golden Bear on his cap was his creation of his own brand.

I can go with best of his era, but no way Tiger is the goat. Too many technological and other advantages in each succeeding era to declare it for any player.
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I see all the old farts are agreeing with you lol. I'm old too, just really wanting to give you some crap is all.
 
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