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See, this guy has exposed himself as a lunatic. At some point, he was going to run his mouth enough to show us.

Fauci: I don't think we should shake hands 'ever again'

"When you gradually come back, you don't jump into it with both feet. You say, what are the things you could still do and still approach normal? One of them is absolute compulsive hand-washing. The other is you don't ever shake anybody's hands," Fauci told The Wall Street Journal's podcast.

"I don't think we should ever shake hands ever again, to be honest with you. Not only would it be good to prevent coronavirus disease; it probably would decrease instances of influenza dramatically in this country," the doctor added.
 
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Soon (if not already here).

Only now, I think all they can do is shut off power to your entire house. In the future, they will have access to each circuit in your home and could "select" particular circuits or breakers to trip/turn off. So they probably will "trip" your HVAC breaker in the summer but leave the breaker for your fridge alone. But, if that fridge starts to trend upward with higher usage, that might trigger a letter from the power company. Either that means your fridge needs servicing or replacement or your fridge is increasingly using more energy as time goes on for some other reason. Possibilities are endless...
Would they be able to detect grow lights for hydroponics? Askin' for my friend Ricky.
 
Soon (if not already here).

Only now, I think all they can do is shut off power to your entire house. In the future, they will have access to each circuit in your home and could "select" particular circuits or breakers to trip/turn off. So they probably will "trip" your HVAC breaker in the summer but leave the breaker for your fridge alone. But, if that fridge starts to trend upward with higher usage, that might trigger a letter from the power company. Either that means your fridge needs servicing or replacement or your fridge is increasingly using more energy as time goes on for some other reason. Possibilities are endless...
Just another regulatory overreach in CA. They don’t have an electricity supply problem it’s a regulatory problem. No nukes, heavy limits on fossil with ratio requirements for renewable energy ratios. Then blame the power company when for the wildfires. I’m surprised there’s a utility company left in CA
 
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Soon (if not already here).

Only now, I think all they can do is shut off power to your entire house. In the future, they will have access to each circuit in your home and could "select" particular circuits or breakers to trip/turn off. So they probably will "trip" your HVAC breaker in the summer but leave the breaker for your fridge alone. But, if that fridge starts to trend upward with higher usage, that might trigger a letter from the power company. Either that means your fridge needs servicing or replacement or your fridge is increasingly using more energy as time goes on for some other reason. Possibilities are endless...

EPB in Chatt. rolled these smart meters out years ago. Currently at 175K meters.
 
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Mark Green: Chinese-made medical supplies to France conditional upon adopting Huawei technology

Rep. Mark Green said the Chinese told France it would provide 1 billion protective face masks only if the French let Huawei implement its 5G capabilities.

The French Embassy in the U.S. responded on Twitter by disputing the Tennessee Republican’s claim as completely false.

“In France, we were told yesterday on a conference call that [French President Emmanuel] Macron was talking to [Chinese President] Xi [Jinping], and Macron asked for a billion masks and Xi said we’ll give ‘em to you if you implement 5G with Huawei,” Mr. Green said on Fox News this weekend. “That’s who China is, and it’s time the world wake up and recognize it.”

DESTROY THE CCP.
TAKE THE GLOVES OFF.
 
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We never went to a full lockdown anywhere that I know of. But I was surprised it got so close in some areas without a reaction.

Hawaii it pretty darn close to it. Roadblocks all over and folks getting stopped and destinations checked.

So this week two guys from Florida arrive in Hawaii, which has a mandatory 14 day quarantine for all arrivals, and when they disembarked and got checked for where their reservations were they had none. Just their backpacks and they were gonna wing it in parks and such. They got immediately arrested and are very comfortably getting 3 hots and a cot now courtesy of the local LEO’s.
 
Hawaii it pretty darn close to it. Roadblocks all over and folks getting stopped and destinations checked.

So this week two guys from Florida arrive in Hawaii, which has a mandatory 14 day quarantine for all arrivals, and when they disembarked and got checked for where their reservations were they had none. Just their backpacks and they were gonna wing it in parks and such. They got immediately arrested and are very comfortably getting 3 hots and a cot now courtesy of the local LEO’s.
I am not sure if this is still the case, but about 30 years ago, I remember reading that if you moved to Hawaii with pets, that the pets were kept and quarantined for 6 months before being returned to their owners. They are pretty strict out there.

The guys from Florida should have watched or read the news because I had heard about the 14 day quarantine some time back.
 
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I'm sorry (see how easy it is McRib?). I missed what you do for a living. You process data for what, exactly?

Well up until about a month ago I led up a team that performed fundamental analysis of oil and gas markets. I’m actually in a different role now but old habits are hard to break.
 
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That is some deep s^%t right there. Even more nightmarish and intrusive than I even imagined. I wonder if they do heat imaging of people as well as facial recognition to identify possible flu victims?
They are doing that right along with your Russian comrades
 
The power company here is already dying to put one of their “smart” thermostats in every home. They can control it to balance supply and demand.

I always tell them hell no.

Partially true, but it is done more so to shave peak (i.e. saves $$$$$). Most distribution utilities are billed on demand, with some having energy adders on a per substation usage basis.

As for what Ras is saying, he should know better. They can’t trip breakers, and it will never get to that point. MCBs are not remote-controlled devices, they operate when exposed to an overload condition (current and/or thermal). Further, most loads behind the meter are not distinguishable with 100% certainty, with resistive loads being the easiest type to distinguish.

Large motor loads are easy enough to distinguish due to, obviously, the load being drawn, but at steady state conditions, and taking into account the dynamics behind a residential meter, the utility wouldn’t know if you’re running an air compressor or a refrigerator. Meters, at this time, are not capable of capturing real-time, graphed data. To attempt to distinguish loads, a plot of voltage and current would be needed (in a real-time, trend line fashion), and even then it would be hard to determine what exactly is going on behind the meter. Imagine, without any user input, how many devices/appliances are automated or are continuously on. From there, envision how often these devices switch on/off in a day and at what times they are on/off, having coincidental overlap with other devices. Just off the cuff, this would include: heat pumps, water heaters, refrigerators, deep freezers, clocks, electronics, etc. None of these require you to do anything for them to operate, other than give them a source and provide some programming/setup. Now, imagine you are home, cooking supper, your kids are playing video games, your wife is blow drying her hair, all while these automated loads are still functioning without your physical input telling them to do so. Paints a much different picture than the Mona Lisa Ras penned, right?

Many utilities have been utilizing load control switches for decades, allowing them to control water heaters, heat pumps and other approved appliances. This is accomplished via peak interrupters and/or relays, which are controlled by a load control switch that receives a remote signal (PLC or RF). After the remote signal is received, the LCS then sends a low voltage signal (12VDC or 24VAC) to the controlling relay, taking that load offline. It is not done subversively, as the customer requests the service and agrees to the conditions of the service being provided. Typically, the customer will receive a kickback in the form of a modest credit, for implementing the use of a load control switch.

The smart thermostat works in the exact same way (controlled via WiFi), only it is viewed as more invasive because of the intimacy, and I’d agree. Utilities, like virtually all other industries, are tightly governed. Rates are set by BODs, city councils, or other, and they are approved by that state’s Public Service Commission. That’s a wet dream for Luther....checks and balances.

Some have apparently been watching too many Twilight Zone reruns.

TL;DR version:

Ras is wearing a tin foil body suit. Electric utilities can’t see behind your meter. Loads are dynamic, even without your input.

Love ya mean it, Ras.
 
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Soon (if not already here).

Only now, I think all they can do is shut off power to your entire house. In the future, they will have access to each circuit in your home and could "select" particular circuits or breakers to trip/turn off. So they probably will "trip" your HVAC breaker in the summer but leave the breaker for your fridge alone. But, if that fridge starts to trend upward with higher usage, that might trigger a letter from the power company. Either that means your fridge needs servicing or replacement or your fridge is increasingly using more energy as time goes on for some other reason. Possibilities are endless...
Time to go native.
 
As for what Ras is saying, he should know better. They can’t trip breakers, and it will never get to that point. MCBs are not remote-controlled devices, they operate when exposed to an overload condition (current and/or thermal). Further, most loads behind the meter are not distinguishable with 100% certainty, with resistive loads being the easiest type to distinguish.

They have the ability to do it right now with SCADA. I'm sure right now the smart meters now can only operate the main circuit coming in to your home. But the technology is there where they could make new homes be constructed with smart distribution panels that will indeed trip individual breakers.

I wasn't saying the ability to do any of this was there now. But it would not be very hard for a utility to easily send SCADA signals to a smart meter or smart distribution panel to turn of individual circuits.
 
Ras is wearing a tin foil body suit. Electric utilities can’t see behind your meter. Loads are dynamic, even without your input.

Love ya mean it, Ras.

Again, you misinterpreted what I was saying. This is clearly what I said:

Only now, I think all they can do is shut off power to your entire house. In the future, they will have access to each circuit in your home and could "select" particular circuits or breakers to trip/turn off. So they probably will "trip" your HVAC breaker in the summer but leave the breaker for your fridge alone. But, if that fridge starts to trend upward with higher usage, that might trigger a letter from the power company. Either that means your fridge needs servicing or replacement or your fridge is increasingly using more energy as time goes on for some other reason. Possibilities are endless...

Now read that first sentence again and tell me where I said that right now, they have the ability to control individual circuits in your home. I'll wait.

Now read the second sentence. That second sentence is where I go in to detail about how it could be done in the future.

It wouldn't be far fetsched at all to have a utility during a time of peak demand engage in selective load shedding and turning off individual circuits in homes with the use of SCADA and a smart circuit breaker or distribution panel that could trip a desired circuit.

Now read the third sentence. I give a particular example that shows how the selection could easily be performed. Most of the large appliances already have it in code to only be on one breaker anyways (or at least that was ow my home was wired). The HVAC unit has its own breaker. The refrigerator has its own breaker. The dryer has a dedicated breaker. Again, it wouldn't be hard to have building codes or regulations in the future establish that certain appliances be connected to a particular smart breaker.
 
Large motor loads are easy enough to distinguish due to, obviously, the load being drawn, but at steady state conditions, and taking into account the dynamics behind a residential meter, the utility wouldn’t know if you’re running an air compressor or a refrigerator. Meters, at this time, are not capable of capturing real-time, graphed data. To attempt to distinguish loads, a plot of voltage and current would be needed (in a real-time, trend line fashion), and even then it would be hard to determine what exactly is going on behind the meter. Imagine, without any user input, how many devices/appliances are automated or are continuously on. From there, envision how often these devices switch on/off in a day and at what times they are on/off, having coincidental overlap with other devices. Just off the cuff, this would include: heat pumps, water heaters, clocks, electronics, etc. None of these require you to do anything for them to operate, other than give them a source and provide some programming/setup. Now, imagine you are home, cooking supper, your kids are playing video games, your wife is blow drying her hair, all while these automated loads are still functioning without your physical input telling them to do so. Paints a much different picture than the Mona Lisa Ras penned, right?

You are correct in saying that a meter cannot distinguish between loads. That is not what I said. A breaker, however, could do that... especially if it is a dedicated breaker with only one appliance on it. That could easily be mandated in code. You would get all of the loading info from that breaker feeding that particular circuit (current and voltage). Is that prevalent right now? No, that is not what I said or suggested. But I did say "soon" or in the future. It wouldn't be a hard hurdle to leap at all.

Many utilities have been utilizing load control switches for decades, allowing them to control water heaters, heat pumps and other approved appliances. This is accomplished via peak interrupters and/or relays, which are controlled by a load control switch that receives a remote signal (PLC or RF). After the remote signal is received, the LCS then sends a low voltage signal (12VDC or 24VAC) to the controlling relay, taking that load offline. It is not done subversively, as the customer requests the service and agrees to the conditions of the service being provided. Typically, the customer will receive a kickback in the form of a modest credit, for implementing the use of a load control switch.

And in the future, the same thing could be done by simply sending a signal to open/trip a smart breaker.
 
Just another regulatory overreach in CA. They don’t have an electricity supply problem it’s a regulatory problem. No nukes, heavy limits on fossil with ratio requirements for renewable energy ratios. Then blame the power company when for the wildfires. I’m surprised there’s a utility company left in CA

I believe California has 2 nuke plants still operating, I know Diablo is, but you're right they are trying to shut them down.
 
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