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rjd970 said:
Sadly hog, you were wrong. A little fear peddling from the press, twitter chicken littles, and anti-Trump agendas is all it takes.
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We never went to a full lockdown anywhere that I know of. But I was surprised it got so close in some areas without a reaction.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Your frustration/desire doesn’t override reality/morality.
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Agreed, however there is a flipside to this. The health and safety of the American people is priority number one and I am a safety-first minded person. At what point does the government flip that switch back on reopening America fully or even partially? End of May, June, July, August, or January of 2021? Eventually, all collectors will be coming to collect. Debts can only remain unpaid for so long. Unemployment benefits provide only of fraction of the income people need to run their homes. This is a double edged sword of a giant sh!t storm & where is the solution? Ever hear of civil unrest? That could become a huge problem outweighing COVID19 hysteria.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
apparently you don't either....are Medical Examiners part of the deep state?
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deep state? what are you talking about?

I am saying that each county and each city and each hospital classifies things in order for them to either make money, get more things or recoup their losses even if means lying or exaggerating about it
 
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Stew Cook said:
Well, that's interesting considering, I believe yesterday, Trump said he wasn't aware of the memo, and if that's the case, I suppose Trump doesn't rely on advisors as much as some would like us to believe.
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My reply doesn't imply he was/wan't aware, but that Navarro's memo at that date - or even earlier - could not have any impact on the situation. He did his job as Eco advisor but the die was already cast.

I didn't hear one person on the left yelling that Trump should be listening to economists along with or in spite of the medical 'experts'. In fact, except for how they can use the bail-out to remake the economy in a quasi-socialist iimage, I don't see they've been concerned about it at all.
 
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05_never_again said:
That's the narrative of progressivism generally. If you give this institution that currently works terribly even more control, things will get a lot better.
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I just dont think it's a great time to push it given the real time examples of that not being the best option. If that's someone's opinion fine but you are going to lose the fence if they look outside or see Italy or the UK
 
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OHvol40 said:
This is a well documented side effect of plaquenil in patients with autoimmune disorders, specifically lupus. The hospitals in my center have tried it with some of the initial patients in our center with negligible therapeutic effects but several instances of liver failure. I’m sure all this stuff will be published in time, but on the ground, in the real world, none of our hospitalized are using this drug for covid anymore. They are exploring other options.
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What dose are you using, and at what point in therapy are you seeing liver failure? PMH of hepatic issues?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
deep state? what are you talking about?

I am saying that each county and each city and each hospital classifies things in order for them to either make money, get more things or recoup their losses even if means lying or exaggerating about it
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so you are implying that every person is crooked?
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
There are instances where it works and instances where it has not worked. There is an article out stating that the French has discontinued its because or the affects on the heart. So 2 or 3 cases of where it worked does not discount the hundreds of cases where it has not worked.
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There's actually 1000s of cases where it worked and 100s that it didn't.

My mom has a heart only working at 60% for the last 8 years. She's been on this med for the last 5 years because of Lupus. It's clearly tolerated by a bigger percentage than not. It wouldn't have been around 60 years if this was not the case.


Go look up the side effects of it. Then go look up the side effects of the Zpak they are combining it with and tell me the difference in the two. It won't be much if any.
 
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