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He's insulting the Illinois governor just because hes begging for supplies.

What an effing douchebag of a President.
 
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TennTradition said:
With the same head start, South Korea had managed to test almost 200,000 PEOPLE by March 8 and the US had tested roughly 5,000 SPECIMENS (which probably represented roughly 2,000 people as each person was re-tested 2-3 times). That had nothing to do with distance of cities, total population, etc.

We botched February (not China, not the WHO). This is well-documented. It is fact. Before that there is blame on those guys.

But we were talking specifically about our failures in rolling out testing.

And it is beyond me why so many of you seem to want to argue otherwise six ways from Sunday. The facts are pretty clear on this.
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CDC had their failures, yes. But the problem of not letting anyone into China and WHO being either incompetent or malicious put the world in a very tight corner when it didnt have to be. CDC needs a review. I dont fully disagree with you on dragging them a little bit its not why we are where we are. jmo.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Well I hope they’re getting ready, according to “the model” we’ve got about 3400 people to lose in the next few weeks.
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The hospital being down could be a false number bc I know our hospital here d/c people quicker than normal to prepare for possible covid outbreak
 
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lawgator1 said:
We do. And I hope it turns out to help. But he seems to be making a lot of assumptions that the science says you can't make.
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I didn’t listen tonight but before he just said it showed promise and was going to make it easier to test it quicker
 
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BeecherVol said:
I know it's obviously not a cure all by any means. I havent had a shot since HS and have had the flue 1 time in the last 25 years.
Having said that Im sure especially with the older generation there would be more deaths annually without it.
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I'm 70 and don't believe I have ever had a flu shot. If I have, it would have been maybe 50+ years ago. I never get the flu either.
 
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volbeast33 said:
You are not listening to what I have said.... people who claim it was botched are trying a
to blame someone.... no one is to blame..... take fire drills for instance..... have you ever practiced fire drills..... single line to a meeting point..... real fire..... half the people are running and screaming....I never said to accept anything.... I’m a sports coach..... you never sit on your a$$.... you keep working towards perfection.... is expect these government agencies to work to correct any errors they committed.
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I think I am listening to you. You keep making excuses saying we are doing a good job now and - correct me if I’m wrong - but I haven’t seen you admit we screwed February up. Who have I blamed?

That is completely disconnected from trying to blame someone. It’s saying we failed in our testing roll-out. It’s just a fact. If we identified how we failed, fixed it, and now know what to do - that’s good. But we also need to ask why we didn’t know before. Can we improve preparation, information sharing, etc? This isn’t something you want to have a do-over for.

I’d like to see the data but I would wager we rolled out testing (not per capita, even, just testing) slower than most if not all developed countries (measured after first case). I might be wrong....I might try to put that together.
 
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TennTradition said:
I think I am listening to you. You keep making excuses saying we are doing a good job now and - correct me if I’m wrong - but I haven’t seen you admit we screwed February up. Who have I blamed?

That is completely disconnected from trying to blame someone. It’s saying we failed in our testing roll-out. It’s just a fact. If we identified how we failed, fixed it, and now know what to do - that’s good. But we also need to ask why we didn’t know before. Can we improve preparation, information sharing, etc? This isn’t something you want to have a do-over for.

I’d like to see the data but I would wager we rolled out testing (not per capita, even, just testing) slower than most if not all developed countries (measured after first case). I might be wrong....I might try to put that together.
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I wonder if the CDC and FDA procedures caused that too. If so, then perhaps we should evaluate the benefits
 
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allvol123 said:
Well nyc.gov had been updating at 5 everyday. No update so far today. Taking sundays off?
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I thought they didn’t until later - closer to 9-10 eastern?

But they never did last Sunday. That’s when we were talking about this before. So maybe they do take the evening off.
 
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allvol123 said:
So you are saying a US yearly flu death reported as 50,000 could be 250,000 to 500,000? If so, the this is worse than the flu, in some ways, doesnt hold near as much water.
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No, it’s the opposite. The 50,000 is an estimate based on a much lower number of lab confirmed flu deaths.
 
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TennTradition said:
I thought they didn’t until later - closer to 9-10 eastern?

But they never did last Sunday. That’s when we were talking about this before. So maybe they do take the evening off.
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I see a second late dump on worldometer for NYS every evening as suggest.

But I have been following the NYC gov website and it usually has a 5 pm update.
 
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utvols88 said:
I wonder if the CDC and FDA procedures caused that too. If so, then perhaps we should evaluate the benefits
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It doesn’t seem like FDA approval was the issue. South Korea’s first patient was the same time as ours around Jan 20. We both approved our tests (FDA) on or around Feb 4. After that, something went wrong.

Bottom line is the test just didn’t work. And we didn’t appear to have another one in parallel development and we were slow to recover as a result.
 
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TennTradition said:
It doesn’t seem like FDA approval was the issue. South Korea’s first patient was the same time as ours around Jan 20. We both approved our tests (FDA) on or around Feb 4. After that, something went wrong.

Bottom line is the test just didn’t work. And we didn’t appear to have another one in parallel development and we were slow to recover as a result.
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Wasnt there some restriction on testing approvals that was suspended though?
 
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