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allvol123 said:
How many people are we pushing towards hunger? You know, that thing that kills 25,000 daily.
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Life will go on. But as I've stated many times, we have to do it responsibly. If the items necessary, as well as the process to do so, is in place. This risk is enormously reduced. How much work is being done to get to that point by our government?

I mean, I really don't know, but it had better be working to be sure that we have the option to be responsible.
 
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allvol123 said:
Everyone he would spread it to would also be unlikely to die from it. Extremely unlikely.
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And when those people spread it to more, and so on... Hospital care is unavailable, and it's spread to more caregivers... most the things that you regularly cite that people die from, suddenly goes off the charts because treatment isn't available.

Suddenly, unlikely to die from, becomes much more likely to die from.
 
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Stew Cook said:
And when those people spread it to more, and so on... Hospital care is unavailable, and it's spread to more caregivers... most the things that you regularly cite that people die from, suddenly goes off the charts because treatment isn't available.

Suddenly, unlikely to die from, becomes much more likely to die from.
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That game of fear you recite is neverending. What if this, what if that. Stay inside kids, you might get sick out in that world.
 
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utvolpj said:
FL was lagging behind on testing. At least that's the case in my county
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Florida is, for all intents and purposes, the petri dish of the south. Huge tourism industry; 2nd home and/or winter nesting grounds for zillions of yankee snowbirds; the Daytona area ('nuff said); Miami (ditto); several major universities with students from all over the world; several large metropolitan areas; etc. No matter where it starts, it's going to end up in Florida sooner or later.

DeSantis was in a tough spot from the get-go, and in any event it's too late now to stop it at the border. Best bet is to self-isolate, and wait for the wave to pass. It's much the same everywhere else in the U.S., but look for Florida to remain center-stage for the next few weeks.

Same goes for the NOLA area, perhaps on a lesser scale. They did it to themselves by not cancelling MG.

Personally, I'm worried about border cities along the U.S. / Mexico border. If COVID-19 gets loose in Mexico (and why wouldn't it?), look for another run on the southwestern border. A big one.

Foxholes are your friend right now.
 
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allvol123 said:
That game of fear you recite is neverending. What if this, what if that. Stay inside kids, you might get sick out in that world.
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You say, "no worries". I say, "be responsible, and strive to be more perfect at it"

But frame it how you like, you've been consistent, ad nauseam, with your cavalier que sera seras.
 
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Stew Cook said:
You say, "no worries". I say, "be responsible, and strive to be more perfect at it"

But frame it how you like, you've been consistent, ad nauseam, with you cavalier que sera seras.
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Why is this such a difficult issue? Feel it is too risky? Stay home. If you dont, then dont.
 
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A lot of the folks that live paycheck to paycheck have now been out of work for almost 3 weeks. They likely got their last check on the 27th. Money should be almost gone and there will be no check this Friday. What do ya'll think will happen in the coming week if anything?
 
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LouderVol said:
Congrats on defining the far right as 0.0001% of American Twitter.

You really will get upset at anything.
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I am explicitly saying it's not everyone that is a Republican, or conservative, or whatever. It is alarming that it seems to get such traction, anywhere. It is also disturbing that Trump seems to feed the anti science, anti government sentiment.
 
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Stew Cook said:
You say, "no worries". I say, "be responsible, and strive to be more perfect at it"

But frame it how you like, you've been consistent, ad nauseam, with you cavalier que sera seras.
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There's a responsible, logical middle ground here. The trick is to find it, and time it right. We cannot, as a nation, hide in our houses and watch our economy complete disintegrate. Nor would it be wise to act as if nothing's amiss and continue with our normal routines.

Bottom line? If you are part of the fight against COVID-19, be it on the front line or in a supply / support role, do so as wisely and cautiously as you can. If you are not, self-isolate as much as your circumstances allow. But at some point we're going to have to weigh the risk -vs- benefit of trying to resume a normal life in the face of a virus that, so far, has a roughly 2% fatality rate (in the U.S.).

So both of you are correct in your thinking, IMO.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
A lot of the folks that live paycheck to paycheck have now been out of work for almost 3 weeks. They likely got their last check on the 27th. Money should be almost gone and there will be no check this Friday. What do ya'll think will happen in the coming week if anything?
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People needing food is the main thing. It needs to be addressed sooner than later.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
A lot of the folks that live paycheck to paycheck have now been out of work for almost 3 weeks. They likely got their last check on the 27th. Money should be almost gone and there will be no check this Friday. What do ya'll think will happen in the coming week if anything?
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More layoffs from special interest companies that received large amounts of money in the relief bill.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
There's a responsible, logical middle ground here. The trick is to find it, and time it right. We cannot, as a nation, hide in our houses and watch our economy complete disintegrate. Nor would it be wise to act as if nothing's amiss and continue with our normal routines.

Bottom line? If you are part of the fight against COVID-19, be it on the front line or in a supply / support role, do so as wisely and cautiously as you can. If you are not, self-isolate as much as your circumstances allow. But at some point we're going to have to weigh the risk -vs- benefit of trying to resume a normal life in the face of a virus that, so far, has a roughly 2% fatality rate (in the U.S.).

So both of you are correct in your thinking, IMO.
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Good at pointing at the middle ground, nothing in that is counter to my thinking, when emphasis is applied to the essential folk having the best available options to reduce harm to themselves and others
 
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Stew Cook said:
People needing food is the main thing. It needs to be addressed sooner than later.
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Hopefully local communities, churches and charities rise up and help those that are in need.

The two basic needs to survival are shelter and food. Whatever you still have brought in from the last check should go to rent/mortgage and utilities. Once that runs out there should be a good support system in your community to assist you through this time. Food and other essentials more than likely will come in abundance from your neighbors and churches if they know you’re in need. These essentials should not include alcohol, cigarettes, etc.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
If it makes any difference, it's a $279 million pledge over 10 years. Additionally, most of the pledges from the Gates foundations seem to be for health care. This includes $100 million to find a cure for COVID 19
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Figures Bama would need a payment plan to afford me :)
 
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allvol123 said:
Stop with this idiotic behavior shaming.

You realized I am correct, mathematically speaking he is unlikely to die from this. So then you have to go to your next nonsensical media issued talking point.
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I don't watch fox news, so I don't have media issued talking points.
You can read minds too? You just gave up and said that I realized you are correct. That is the furthest thing from the truth. People are being infected because other freedom fighters feel like they are healthy and not a danger to anyone else. However some of the 4,516 Americans came in contact with supposedly "healthy" adults who are only concerned about themselves and their well being.
 
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