stock market was up today...

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VolStrom said:
I hope you bought it up. As a former shareholder that sold after more than doubling my money on it, they make me sick with how the company is being run today. They have no more ethics, no more morals, just a calculated risk to the bottom line of how much profit they can squeeze out of the company.
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You still interested in the "birds nest soup"?
 
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Purple Tiger said:
David Chase said in an interview a few years back that Tony was shot dead. We saw about half of the last scene through his eyes. He looked up when the door opened but was cut down - hence the black. For years, I thought (hoped) Tony survived, but it was clear he would probably go to prison had he lived.

If you have Amazon, watch Fleabag. It is hilarious.
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Yeah, I read Chase's comments, too. BUT, he later retracted / walked them back. Pretty much I'm thinking the more gray area / controversy, the longer the legs it will still (always) have.

In my mind, Tony's alive.

I heard Fleabag is good. Thanks for heads up. I'll check it out.
 
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This market action is a sucker's rally. Anyone who believes Trump that this sh*t is gonna be done by Easter is smoking crack.

NH just ordered its residents to stay home until the END OF MAY.
 
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VolStrom said:
I hope you bought it up. As a former shareholder that sold after more than doubling my money on it, they make me sick with how the company is being run today. They have no more ethics, no more morals, just a calculated risk to the bottom line of how much profit they can squeeze out of the company.
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Boeing is one of the largest Defense Contractors in the world.

They make Weapons of War.

Morals?
 
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VolStrom said:
I hope you bought it up. As a former shareholder that sold after more than doubling my money on it, they make me sick with how the company is being run today. They have no more ethics, no more morals, just a calculated risk to the bottom line of how much profit they can squeeze out of the company.
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Well, that didn't work either.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Boeing is one of the largest Defense Contractors in the world.

They make Weapons of War.

Morals?
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Yeah morals. As a defense contractor they make stuff that kills people, I can live with that. As a commercial aerospace contractor they make stuff that transports civilians around the world, not to kill them. I'm pretty sure that they ran a calculation that told them the risk/reward for the decisions that were made on the 737-MAX and decided they were okay going the cheap route and it was a bad decision. They didn't really care if people died, they cared if the costs of death was more or less than the decisions they made when they went ahead with the MAX. That is what I call morals.
 
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VolStrom said:
Yeah morals. As a defense contractor they make stuff that kills people, I can live with that. As a commercial aerospace contractor they make stuff that transports civilians around the world, not to kill them. I'm pretty sure that they ran a calculation that told them the risk/reward for the decisions that were made on the 737-MAX and decided they were okay going the cheap route and it was a bad decision. They didn't really care if people died, they cared if the costs of death was more or less than the decisions they made when they went ahead with the MAX. That is what I call morals.
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So the system worked as intended, right? I mean, it's pretty clear now that the deaths cost more than the decision to fast-track the plane.

IMO, they genuinely didn't think that the plane would be unsafe by fast-tracking the design.
 
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05_never_again said:
So the system worked as intended, right? I mean, it's pretty clear now that the deaths cost more than the decision to fast-track the plane.

IMO, they genuinely didn't think that the plane would be unsafe by fast-tracking the design.
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And because of these facts don't deserve a peoples bailout, they deserve to go bankrupt and have the investors and board of directors and CEO lose every damn penney they raped from that company.
 
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VolStrom said:
Yeah morals. As a defense contractor they make stuff that kills people, I can live with that. As a commercial aerospace contractor they make stuff that transports civilians around the world, not to kill them. I'm pretty sure that they ran a calculation that told them the risk/reward for the decisions that were made on the 737-MAX and decided they were okay going the cheap route and it was a bad decision. They didn't really care if people died, they cared if the costs of death was more or less than the decisions they made when they went ahead with the MAX. That is what I call morals.
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Fair enough. If that’s what you truly believe.
 
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Interesting dynamic in the precious metals markets. Gold and silver have both arguably underperformed ... if you look at the prices reported on the exchanges.

But, retail, it's much more expensive. Online dealers typically charge about 5-8% above spot price. So if silver is $15 an ounce you can get it online for about $16 an ounce. Less of a markup for larger quantities.

But, today, markups are more like 25 to 30%, with dealers saying they can't find more to sell. Quite remarkable. I dont know if the usual retail dealers are ahead of the price curve such that prices are due to rise, or that there's just enough panic in small markets to cause the shortage and resulting higher prices.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interesting dynamic in the precious metals markets. Gold and silver have both arguably underperformed ... if you look at the prices reported on the exchanges.

But, retail, it's much more expensive. Online dealers typically charge about 5-8% above spot price. So if silver is $15 an ounce you can get it online for about $16 an ounce. Less of a markup for larger quantities.

But, today, markups are more like 25 to 30%, with dealers saying they can't find more to sell. Quite remarkable. I dont know if the usual retail dealers are ahead of the price curve such that prices are due to rise, or that there's just enough panic in small markets to cause the shortage and resulting higher prices.
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The spot price for metals you see advertised has nothing to do with the price on the street. Before the coronavirus scare, dealers were selling silver @ $20-$21 easy. Not that the "paper" price of silver dipped to $12, no dealer is willing to sell at that price when they paid more than that for what is in the inventory... assuming they have any inventory left.

Demand for metal was so huge that the US mint shutdown because of the high demand.
 
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MontyPython said:
Yeah, I read Chase's comments, too. BUT, he later retracted / walked them back. Pretty much I'm thinking the more gray area / controversy, the longer the legs it will still (always) have.

In my mind, Tony's alive.

I heard Fleabag is good. Thanks for heads up. I'll check it out.
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That's why I liked the ending, it was perfect. "Don't Stop Believing." :cool:
 
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joevol320 said:
:lolabove: take an economics class.

better yet. look what Bush did in his 1st year. he cut taxes for everyone during the clinton recession and 9/11. We had growth every quarter until the last year of his presidency. investors saw that they weren't going to get the crap taxed out of them and they were encouraged to invest. you are really clueless about economics.
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Or, more precisely, his lax credit policies created the real estate bubble which exploded, and created the Great Recession. GWB's policies are NOT one to mirror or hold up as a good example.
 
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MontyPython said:
Or, more precisely, his lax credit policies created the real estate bubble which exploded, and created the Great Recession. GWB's policies are NOT one to mirror or hold up as a good example.
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The real estate bubble was not caused by tax cuts. It had a variety of factors, the biggest of which was probably low long-term interest rates. All of the other causes of that crisis (complete erosion of lending standards, securitization, leverage, etc.) came to be because rates were so low.

The Fed plays a role in that, although if you want to argue interest rates would be low without the Fed because of a global savings glut I wouldn't protest too strongly.
 
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