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allvol123 said:
Seems so irregular that it is purposeful. Maybe there is a lot from 40-44, but you put 18-44 to continue to drive the fear????
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End of last week during the daily press conference, Dr Birx said they were sending the bulk of new tests to the hotspots that needed them most. I have to believe that’s what is being seen. There’s not 20k people hospitalized in NYC. There’s only 4K hospitalized in all of NY state. So that means in NY, 26k positives are sitting at home not in hospitals.
 
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Had our first casualties in town due to coronavirus.....no deaths thankfully Alabama has about 400 cases and 0% death rate but our Ruby Tuesday posted that they are now permanently closed....over 50 people out of work.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I know it's probably been discussed, but why do we care about recovered?
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This was a graph that a poster referenced several weeks ago while the majority of cases were in China. It was referenced regularly until the day before the trend flipped over and then never again. I don't know any significant relevance other than a data point that was referenced in this thread several times, and I thought it interesting to see how it continued to track. The poster now claims he/she stopped posting it because he/she found out the data was bad ten days after he/she stopped posting it.
 
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newyorkvol said:
End of last week during the daily press conference, Dr Birx said they were sending the bulk of new tests to the hotspots that needed them most. I have to believe that’s what is being seen. There’s not 20k people hospitalized in NYC. There’s only 4K hospitalized in all of NY state. So that means in NY, 26k positives are sitting at home not in hospitals.
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It is so sad, on so many levels, how much of the information is being dispersed.
 
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allvol123 said:
Seems so irregular that it is purposeful. Maybe there is a lot from 40-44, but you put 18-44 to continue to drive the fear????
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You really believe that?

Found this from the 2010 census, using pretty much the same age groups, where it breaks down percentage of population:

In the 2010 Census, the number of people under age 18 was 74.2 million (24.0 percent of the total population). The younger working-age population, ages 18 to 44, represented 112.8 million persons (36.5 percent). The older working-age population, ages 45 to 64, made up 81.5 million persons (26.4 percent). Finally, the 65 and over population was 40.3 million persons (13.0 percent).

https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf
 
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TheColdVolTruth said:
This was a graph that a poster referenced several weeks ago while the majority of cases were in China. It was referenced regularly until the day before the trend flipped over and then never again. I don't know any significant relevance other than a data point that was referenced in this thread several times, and I thought it interesting to see how it continued to track. The poster now claims he/she stopped posting it because he/she found out the data was bad ten days after he/she stopped posting it.
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And that poster was correct! I don't understand why countries and or states wouldn't track everything but apparently they only care about positive cases
 
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allvol123 said:
It is so sad, on so many levels, how much of the information is being dispersed.
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It’s part of the problem with this situation...the daily numbers and statistics don’t add up to what is clearly seen with the eyes. Or the people that are affected are so severely and therefore makes the visual situation what it is. I honestly don’t know. Wish I did. Live 100 miles north of City so a little removed, but we have 150 in our county.
 
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I’m not trying to be hyperbolic so please don’t take it that way.

But - do we think we could be at 750-1000 deaths per day by next week? That’s what the trend we have maintained over the last week suggests we would be at.

I know someone posted earlier how we were seeing 1k deaths a month with H1N1 with no quarantine and someone posted agreeing saying that it was a shotty time to be in medicine.

It’s pretty wild to consider we could be at 1k a day in a week.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
You can't slam 2800 Vt through a ventilator. There's about 5 reasons this won't work. Minute ventilation, peep requirements, configuration by ideal body wt of each patient,
Each person requiring different tidal volumes, and lung compliance is different for each person. You could ventilate one just fine and kill the other 3.
I have cared for one person with 2 ventilators, one for the right lung and one for the left lung.
I think the "spokesperson" is full of it. But just to be sure, I'll read up on capabilities.
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CuO I was talking about trying to hook up two patients to one ventilator. That would be tricky enough but 4 on one machine? I doubt it.
 
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TennTradition said:
I’m not trying to be hyperbolic so please don’t take it that way.

But - do we think we could be at 750-1000 deaths per day by next week? That’s what the trend we have maintained over the last week suggests we would be at.

I know someone posted earlier how we were seeing 1k deaths a month with H1N1 with no quarantine and someone posted agreeing saying that it was a shotty time to be in medicine.

It’s pretty wild to consider we could be at 1k a day in a week.
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If we posted total positive flu cases and deaths like we do corona it would scare the hell out of ppl and maybe increase the number that get flu shots 20200325_210024.jpg20200325_210038.jpg
 
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TennTradition said:
I’m not trying to be hyperbolic so please don’t take it that way.

But - do we think we could be at 750-1000 deaths per day by next week? That’s what the trend we have maintained over the last week suggests we would be at.

I know someone posted earlier how we were seeing 1k deaths a month with H1N1 with no quarantine and someone posted agreeing saying that it was a shotty time to be in medicine.

It’s pretty wild to consider we could be at 1k a day in a week.
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I didn't want to come on here and predict it, but that’s where it is headed.
 
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I do think that the hospitalization rates of 20% that NYC was running at will be dropping considerably. Early on many of the tests that were administered were to patients that were seeking hospitalization. They didn’t have enough for more widespread testing. Now as they detect more and more milder symptomatic patients I’m sure that percentage will go down, which will hopefully improve their forecast of when they will saturate medical care.

But Cuomo was talking about flattening the curve today. If total hospitalized drops or flattens them great. But it’ll be interesting to see if that actually pans out. Due to under testing who knows. We could drop hospitalization numbers while seemingly adding more cases than before if quarantine measures are working. Seems to soon for that to me.
 
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TennTradition said:
I’m not trying to be hyperbolic so please don’t take it that way.

But - do we think we could be at 750-1000 deaths per day by next week? That’s what the trend we have maintained over the last week suggests we would be at.

I know someone posted earlier how we were seeing 1k deaths a month with H1N1 with no quarantine and someone posted agreeing saying that it was a shotty time to be in medicine.

It’s pretty wild to consider we could be at 1k a day in a week.
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The biggest problem with the quarantine in Georgia is nobody is staying home. Everyone in our county fusses about nobody staying home, but Monday on my way to the pharmacy I passed 2 coffee shops, both were full. Even the "lockdown" in Atlanta isn't much. Local news posted a list of everything still open, and almost everything except churches, gyms, and bars.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
You can't slam 2800 Vt through a ventilator. There's about 5 reasons this won't work. Minute ventilation, peep requirements, configuration by ideal body wt of each patient,
Each person requiring different tidal volumes, and lung compliance is different for each person. You could ventilate one just fine and kill the other 3.
I have cared for one person with 2 ventilators, one for the right lung and one for the left lung.
I think the "spokesperson" is full of it. But just to be sure, I'll read up on capabilities.
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God bless you, nurse. I have tracked this topic on volnation since coronavirus was being discussed in the China thread prior to this thread being started. I have no idea what language you are speaking most of the time, but I truly admire your input.
 
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VolnJC said:
Had our first casualties in town due to coronavirus.....no deaths thankfully Alabama has about 400 cases and 0% death rate but our Ruby Tuesday posted that they are now permanently closed....over 50 people out of work.
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You talking Mobile, AL?
 
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TennTradition said:
I’m not trying to be hyperbolic so please don’t take it that way.

But - do we think we could be at 750-1000 deaths per day by next week? That’s what the trend we have maintained over the last week suggests we would be at.

I know someone posted earlier how we were seeing 1k deaths a month with H1N1 with no quarantine and someone posted agreeing saying that it was a shotty time to be in medicine.

It’s pretty wild to consider we could be at 1k a day in a week.
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I was thinking the same thing earlier when someone posted the H1N1 stats. I didn't want to make anyone's head explode by stating the likelihood of hitting the monthly deaths of H1N1, daily, with CV-19 on it's current trajectory .
 
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VolnJC said:
If we posted total positive flu cases and deaths like we do corona it would scare the hell out of ppl and maybe increase the number that get flu shots View attachment 268281View attachment 268282
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It’s true it’s a lot of deaths. We’ll likely do more than that next month with CV unless quarantines really change the trajectory.
 
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