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#16,977
volfanhill said:
I don’t pretend to know the answers. I do think listening to our best scientists is a good plan.
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Herein is a major problem. The doctors arent wrong, but their goal is to minimize everything. That has never been the goal used to determine how to go about our daily.lives.
 
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#16,978
rjd970 said:
Will be interesting to see what the serious symptoms and fatal cases numbers turn out to be. Would also like to see what the medical history and age is of anybody that dies and what their behavior was that could have facilitated them getting it.
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There were 7 I believe , and they rode in one car. Only one tested positive so far, but who knows where they have been in the community?
 
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#16,979
volfanhill said:
I don’t pretend to know the answers. I do think listening to our best scientists is a good plan.
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let me know when the to scientists get their time on air.

Top CEOs will listen to legal council way before they will listen to top scientists.
 
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#16,980
allvol123 said:
Herein is a major problem. The doctors arent wrong, but their goal is to minimize everything. That has never been the goal used to determine how to go about our daily.lives.
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Scientists aren’t struggling with death rates on heroin and out hospitals won’t be overloaded by it.
 
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#16,982
rjd970 said:
Also, getting back to normal and going places isn’t “being a tough guy”. So sick of hearing that.

It’s making a personal decision based on the data we are given. If I were at risk or could infect somebody at risk I wouldn’t be going out. If you are at risk and get it from a trip to the grocery store or going to a concert or putting yourself in harms way, it isn’t the fault of the person that gave it to you. It’s your fault.

Everybody should be responsible for themselves and allowed to take responsibility for their own actions. I would even pay for a grocery delivery for at risk folks, help out the elderly, be a good citizen....but I shouldn’t be blamed if I want to go out or ridiculed as stupid, or “tough”. Since when is it our responsibility to protect someone who wants to make a stupid decision?

These spring breakers everyone is making fun of are actually talking sense, even if it is by accident.
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You hit the nail on the head here. I hate it when the government feels the need to protect us from ourselves. This kind of thinking drives a lot of the gun control debates, the war on drugs etc., and now this disgusting overreach of government regarding this virus.
 
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#16,987
hog88 said:
let me know when the to scientists get their time on air.

Top CEOs will listen to legal council way before they will listen to top scientists.
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You don’t think the head of the CDC or the task force are some of the best we have?

In damn near every country where shut **** down fast it was not a major deal. That’s not disputable. Hong Kong and South Korea maintained quickly for example
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
The gov doesn't trust us to do that, so they put fluoride in the water. Fluoride causes some pretty bad side effects and it's more than the benefit of preventing dental caries. Yet it's existed since 1945. The word Nanny comes to mind.
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There's none in my well, but I still buy toothpaste that has it, because it extra bright or somethin'

i don't think it's workin
 
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hog88 said:
let me know when the to scientists get their time on air.

Top CEOs will listen to legal council way before they will listen to top scientists.
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No they will consider share holders and solvency first. Good luck with a lawsuit against a restaurant you ate at, by choice, and get infected. If they ignored a government order then they may have a leg to stand on. Otherwise it will “where else did you go before you got sick?”
 
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rjd970 said:
Also, getting back to normal and going places isn’t “being a tough guy”. So sick of hearing that.

It’s making a personal decision based on the data we are given. If I were at risk or could infect somebody at risk I wouldn’t be going out. If you are at risk and get it from a trip to the grocery store or going to a concert or putting yourself in harms way, it isn’t the fault of the person that gave it to you. It’s your fault.

Everybody should be responsible for themselves and allowed to take responsibility for their own actions. I would even pay for a grocery delivery for at risk folks, help out the elderly, be a good citizen....but I shouldn’t be blamed if I want to go out or ridiculed as stupid, or “tough”. Since when is it our responsibility to protect someone who wants to make a stupid decision?

These spring breakers everyone is making fun of are actually talking sense, even if it is by accident.
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This is so short-sighted and purely selfish. If you are walking around being “normal” and have the infection but you’re asymptomatic, it doesn’t just affect the people you come in direct contact with, it’s a chain reaction.

Say that is exactly the case, you’re lucky and you only infect one other person. That person is just out doing only the necessary things they need to do for the day and they return home. They are also asymptomatic but they check on their parents every other day who are 75, and 72 respectively while also living at home with two children, one of which has a history of asthma. They all become ill and his parents and one child need hospitalized. Now, that’s three more hospital beds taken and three more patients who need care from doctors and nurses that already don’t have the supplies to do their jobs.

By simply choosing to disregard everything you’re being told in plain english YOU have directly contributed to the problem. Don’t be dumb. The solution is sitting your ass in front of the TV or building something in the garage for a month. I’m tired of people acting like this is such an inconvenience to them when both my wife and I are facing the reality of leaving our two children for weeks or months of mandated work in the hospital to care for the onslaught of patients. Stop being selfish. There is literally no other way to describe it, it’s selfishness.
 
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volfanhill said:
No they will consider share holders and solvency first. Good luck with a lawsuit against a restaurant you ate at, by choice, and get infected. If they ignored a government order then they may have a leg to stand on. Otherwise it will “where else did you go before you got sick?”
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As they should.

I think we haven’t seen the beginning of the lawsuits about to be filed over contracting the virus And very legal council worth their fee are advising public businesses that they could be liable.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
The gov doesn't trust us to do that, so they put fluoride in the water. Fluoride causes some pretty bad side effects and it's more than the benefit of preventing dental caries. Yet it's existed since 1945. The word Nanny comes to mind.
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Berkey for the win and just clear everything out of the water or at least 99.999% of it😂
 
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