Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

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DinkinFlicka said:
I'm a man of many talents. I can make a mean drink, teach others to do the same, AND I can have meetings with women without attempting to have sex with them.

It's hard juggling this much virtue.
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I can't have a private meeting with attractive women. They simply can't control themselves.
 
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Stew Cook said:
That's true, and we pretty much let them have their way, year to year.
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Fundamental properties of virus strains I suppose. Problem with meds being the primary battle is either the body becomes null to the med, or the virus mutates and renders last years shot useless. It's a viscous cycle. We are always pumping the body full of things for viral infections to become immune to, and render ourselves susceptible to anything. I'm blessed with a stout immune system. I rarely get sick. My tendency to have bronchitis twice a year has dwindled. Haven't had the common flu or it's mutations in 20 plus years. Get the makings of what could be a cold or bronchitis brewing then it just goes away before it ever gets bad. I have had a nagging cough and chest congestion on and off back to mid fall, but never has advanced. I'm scared if I have a slight cough in public now, someone will call 911 on me. Conversely, because of that, I am having to force myself to be more mindful of basic practices right now. By nature, I'm not a overly habitual hand sanitizer guy and all that stuff people are addicted to.
 
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midnight orange said:
It seemed relevant since we’re praising communist central planning.
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Well, it wasn't. It's about how our government could do better by having stockpiles, especially if we rely on other countries for it. Central planning doesn't have to be at the Federal level, it could be at the state level, or even community, but wasn't.
 
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hog88 said:
Are you somehow figuring in the increased testing?
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Yes, but the more pessimistic version would weight that less than the model which is just trying to watch for a drop in the base infection rate. I try to lean into what is quantifiable and avoid assumptions, but sometimes that will put you further behind the curve.

I've been looking at that pessimistic version because it would catch the curve back down in the testing spike faster than the base infection rate model, but I have also assumed that the dissipation of a real testing spike will be so obvious you won't need a model to see it when it happens.

This will get more accurate over time obviously but it will always be a little behind reality. I think in reality we are below 1.33 today, but the evidence of that won't be apparent yet.
 
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Electric Orange said:
So you're saying there's a chance then that flattening the curve may in fact be unwise as it could leave a larger part of the population completely vulnerable to a potentially deadlier wave?
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allvol123 said:
Possible.
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No, flattening the curve is wise either way so that our healthcare system doesn't get overloaded. Another wave would just mean that people would stay inside longer
 
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Orange_Crush said:
@DinkinFlicka

I've insulted you several times today, and I apologize. I still have no issues with you. I'm comfortable with the fact that we have different opinions on many subjects. I wish you only the best, as well as your employees who are out of work.

Peace.
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Do you think that he would ever apologize to you or anyone else?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
@DinkinFlicka

I've insulted you several times today, and I apologize. I still have no issues with you. I'm comfortable with the fact that we have different opinions on many subjects. I wish you only the best, as well as your employees who are out of work.

Peace.
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It's probably my own fault for extracting it from you.

It is what it is. I'm on edge right now and it shows. I also apologize, for everything except Friar Tuck-it-in. I'm keeping that one.
 
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Electric Orange said:
So then isn't it possibly a lot to ask of someone not at risk from the 1st wave to distance themself to avoid what ends up bringing them some immunity against their likely killer, the 2nd wave?
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You're suggesting that young people should ignore health officials and go intentionally contract the coronavirus, in order to bring them some immunity in case a bigger, badder coronavirus comes later? Jesus
 
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GVF said:
Fundamental properties of virus strains I suppose. Problem with meds being the primary battle is either the body becomes null to the med, or the virus mutates and renders last years shot useless. It's a viscous cycle. We are always pumping the body full of things for viral infections to become immune to, and render ourselves susceptible to anything. I'm blessed with a stout immune system. I rarely get sick. My tendency to have bronchitis twice a year has dwindled. Haven't had the common flu or it's mutations in 20 plus years. Get the makings of what could be a cold or bronchitis brewing then it just goes away before it ever gets bad. I have had a nagging cough and chest congestion on and off back to mid fall, but never has advanced. I'm scared if I have a slight cough in public now, someone will call 911 on me.
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Yeah, I guess that's the natural selection at work. I suppose that if there is some solace in the possible mutations of CV-19, it would be that some scientists have suggested that it's already a near-perfect virus. Hopefully, that suggests that further mutations will make it more vulnerable to treatments.

I'm usually pretty healthy, as well. Hopefully with the genetic/biological crapshoot on this one, we all can come out ahead.
 
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Electric Orange said:
They're saying this is supposed to last through several waves. Does that mean waves like the 2nd wave of the Spanish Flu? If so wouldn't it be better to get it and build immunity up asap?
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This is just my opinion only, and have not put in the reading time yet to back it up, but I am seriously wondering if it hasn't already been making it's round, and many have already had Covid-19 and recovered. If the China gov't really covered this up for a month or so, the world had unrestricted travel of affected individuals before hand. I know people that swear they had symptoms that made them feel like crap but never tested positive for the domestic flu. And if I really wanted to speculate, I'd throw my wife in that group. She was sick with flu symptoms in back to back weeks. Me and my son never developed them.
 
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Mick said:
Well, it wasn't. It's about how our government could do better by having stockpiles, especially if we rely on other countries for it. Central planning doesn't have to be at the Federal level, it could be at the state level, or even community, but wasn't.
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Central planning sucks. The gubmint can’t even sync the damn traffic lights.
Why Central Planning Fails
 
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NashVol11 said:
No, flattening the curve is wise either way so that our healthcare system doesn't get overloaded. Another wave would just mean that people would stay inside longer
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If you find no ways to treat this, the best you can do is beef up preparedness. If the second wave gets sicker because immunities weren't built up but you can brag about all the extra beds you built while flattening the first curve, then no it wasnt.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I've heard some discussions of that concern. Apparently it mutates over time, as most viruses do, but If it gets worse, I'm not sure anyone can say.

Personally, I imagine it will be a natural selection type evolution, where the mutations that can endure, will.
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History says it will never go away. Isn't SARS and the other uncommon viruses of the last 2 decades still around and basically resting on the cupboard? Are they still contractible?
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
It's probably my own fault for extracting it from you.

It is what it is. I'm on edge right now and it shows. I also apologize, for everything except Friar Tuck-it-in. I'm keeping that one.
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No need. I realized that you're probably very on edge. I feel bad for my response.

Do you still have my email address? If you/they have any needs, reach out? Serious.

(And go back to see who liked that Friar post... ;))
 
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NashVol11 said:
No, flattening the curve is wise either way so that our healthcare system doesn't get overloaded. Another wave would just mean that people would stay inside longer
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Why cant the people most at risk distance themselves? Why does everyone have to?
 
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