Coronavirus (No politics)

[GAVol]

Had to take supplies to my Mother in Law who has been in a nursing home for 5 years. Never got out of the car, but had to pass a checkpoint at the front gate and let the guard use a thermal scanner as I sat in the car.

 

[AM64]

Looked at the study. Maybe it will work? That being said that's all anecdotal unknowns. I will say this though...I am enjoying a gin and tonic right now which has a very moderate amount of quinine and I'm feeling pretty immune.

Yep. Funny thing about those - if they are too bitter add more gin. About the only drink I know that works that way. Not too much, though - gotta keep the quinine intake up.

 

[dduncan4163]

My sister in law I mentioned a few days ago who worked for tge Dr that didn't wanna test, she's now at home from work. They finally tested the same patient, and she was positive. So everyone there has went for days interacting like normal after someone who is positive has been in their office 3 times.

Really hope everything is going well for you and yours brother. How's your wife doing?

 

[joevol33]

Really hope everything is going well for you and yours brother. How's your wife doing?

She's actually doing better than any surgery I've seen her have. I mean she's hurting from being cut on, but she's not out of it like she normally is. It usually takes her a couple of days to get back to normal, but she's already throwing water bottles at me for running my mouth and thanks brother.

 

[AM64]

I mentioned the exact same thing to the nurses that tested me, up until the covid-19 test they had cloth masks and gloves but nothing else. We where in a small room and they fully examined me like I didn't have it. As soon as I tested negative for the flu they went partial hazmat. I told them it was a little too late for that and they agreed and started venting to me about how they have been complaining about the same thing.

That's the interesting part about testing, too. What do you do with people who have the symptoms when test results aren't available for days? Fill up isolation beds with maybes, or potentially expose a lot of other people with maybe nots (because we don't know). And do you just let people test and overwhelm labs because enquiring minds want to know? I'm at the point that it seems like at this point what difference does it make ... except for statistics.

 

[AM64]

She's actually doing better than any surgery I've seen her have. I mean she's hurting from being cut on, but she's not out of it like she normally is. It usually takes her a couple of days to get back to normal, but she's already throwing water bottles at me for running my mouth and thanks brother.

Hurling water bottles by a wife is a sure sign of recovery. Mine had hip surgery in early Jan; you could pretty well tell when things were really on the mend.

 

[volwindy]

She's actually doing better than any surgery I've seen her have. I mean she's hurting from being cut on, but she's not out of it like she normally is. It usually takes her a couple of days to get back to normal, but she's already throwing water bottles at me for running my mouth and thanks brother.

We got to get her to throw glass bottles!

 

[maotai]

That's the interesting part about testing, too. What do you do with people who have the symptoms when test results aren't available for days? Fill up isolation beds with maybes, or potentially expose a lot of other people with maybe nots (because we don't know). And do you just let people test and overwhelm labs because enquiring minds want to know? I'm at the point that it seems like at this point what difference does it make ... except for statistics.

This might be a good topic for discussion in the politics forum because I would love to spill out my thoughts on this but I am afraid if done here it would be opening not one but two cans of worms and result in many of us getting "quarantined" from volation.

 

[kiddiedoc]

That's the interesting part about testing, too. What do you do with people who have the symptoms when test results aren't available for days? Fill up isolation beds with maybes, or potentially expose a lot of other people with maybe nots (because we don't know). And do you just let people test and overwhelm labs because enquiring minds want to know? I'm at the point that it seems like at this point what difference does it make ... except for statistics.

Patients tested are instructed to self-quarantine at home until results are known

 

[AM64]

This might be a good topic for discussion in the politics forum because I would love to spill out my thoughts on this but I am afraid if done here it would be opening not one but two cans of worms and result in many of us getting "quarantined" from volation.

I actually left out a key ingredient - that there isn't a proven cure for it anyway. Generally you test to decide a course of action, but this time the course of action seems to be simply dealing with the symptoms/effects and knowing who to isolate. But the testing is generally an overcome by events kind of thing due to the delayed results.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Doc, the Chloroquine study I posted above sounds promising doesn't it?

So, from what I've found, there are some promising reports. There is also some prior experience using it with other viral infections. I'm not quite sure what to make of the "study" you linked, bc it is not really a true investigational study...sounds more like self-reported case reports. Anything that might lead to a successful treatment is good with me, though, at this point! (So long as it doesn't have a significant risk of harm in and of itself)

 

[AM64]

Patients tested are instructed to self-quarantine at home until results are known

I was kind of getting ahead of myself and thinking about admissions rather the drive by testing.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I actually left out a key ingredient - that there isn't a proven cure for it anyway. Generally you test to decide a course of action, but this time the course of action seems to be simply dealing with the symptoms/effects and knowing who to isolate. But the testing is generally an overcome by events kind of thing due to the delayed results.

It really is more of a "where do we go from here?" deal with the testing. When you see some of the catastrophic models, it is imperative to get data quickly and monitor the spread and the effect we are having with isolation, social distancing, etc. Worst case scenario: if this doesn't work -- nation-wide lockdown.

 

[VolnJC]

Patients tested are instructed to self-quarantine at home until results are known

There seems to be a huge divide in mild/serious cases in the US....for say a mild positive with a 30 year old...would they be admitted or sent home for self quarantining?

 

[InVOLuntary]

(7) 3/18: As far as covid-19 symptoms I have felt as good today as I have felt during the whole ordeal. I am 60 to 70%. I am hoping my turn for the worse phase was Saturday and Sunday since everything I have read points to a turn for the worse phase happening between day 7 to 12. I had periods of fatigue and a little bit of shortness of breath but only when I over did it on the chores. I have had this "raw" feeling from my sinuses to my bronchial tubes all day. I think this is more due to the pollen combined with two deep nasal swabs the day before, when I went outside to get the garbage and mail it felt like I was inhaling sawdust. I have continued super dosing vitamin C. Today was the first day that I actually felt hungry instead of forcing myself to eat. Wine supply is running low and the next delivery I can get is next week. I am not sure yet what I am going to do about that. No test results. Symptoms: "Raw" sinuses, minor shortness of breath, minor fatigue.

To those asking about job situations. I work in a field that should not be majorly affected by the shutdown and my company has already extended the work from home program for at least two weeks, but with my situation they may have been a few days too late. Even though I have the option to work from home this week I have taken the week off.

Have you tested positive?

 

[maotai]

Have you tested positive?

I am still waiting on the results. I was told at least 3 days and told that one of the previous tested had been waiting 4 with no results.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

So, from what I've found, there are some promising reports. There is also some prior experience using it with other viral infections. I'm not quite sure what to make of the "study" you linked, bc it is not really a true investigational study...sounds more like self-reported case reports. Anything that might lead to a successful treatment is good with me, though, at this point! (So long as it doesn't have a significant risk of harm in and of itself)

I think it was from 40 cases in France. Here's the video of the guy explaining.

 

[BigOrangeAl 1979]

I think this won’t be all over here till June or July.

 

[Regulator]

If we, as a country, will be considerate and mindful enough to simply follow the requests/mandates of social distancing and self-quarantine now, the need for testing diminishes. Four of the five tests we’ve done are for what I would classify as “out of obligation”. These folks barely had enough justification to be seen in the ER (based on chief complaint/symptoms and essentially confirmed by their benign work ups), but because their biofire screens were negative and they’d presented themselves to the ER, we were almost obligated to test them. The fifth test, and the only one that fit the testing criteria based on her story and probable exposure could have/should have managed herself at home. I expect she’s going to test positive, she looked like someone who has the flu, but none of her work up, NONE, got her anywhere close to even a discussion of “should she be admitted?” It was never a consideration. Stable vitals, normal labs, clean chest x-ray, etc.

It may turn out that all five of these swabs test positive, or none of them, or any number in between. What does that mean? IMO, it means (in a very limited study) that the test result has no predictive value for these patients. Manage your symptoms and self-quarantine.

 

[YankeeVol]

In the coronavirus pandemic, we're making decisions without reliable data

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

There seems to be a huge divide in mild/serious cases in the US....for say a mild positive with a 30 year old...would they be admitted or sent home for self quarantining?
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Good numbers. Really contagious. That’s the only scary part. But for 90% of people there’s really no threat

 

[Coug]

Here it is folks, why the virus spread so fast across the entire world. It can remain airborne in certain conditions for 3 hours.

WHO considers 'airborne precautions' for medical staff after study shows coronavirus can survive in air

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Here it is folks, why the virus spread so fast across the entire world. It can remain airborne in certain conditions for 3 hours.

WHO considers 'airborne precautions' for medical staff after study shows coronavirus can survive in air

I bet it runs a 4.2 forty too

 

[Shades]

This might be a good topic for discussion in the politics forum because I would love to spill out my thoughts on this but I am afraid if done here it would be opening not one but two cans of worms and result in many of us getting "quarantined" from volation.

Count me in as a listener if you split off some of your thoughts over at the Politics forum, I'd like to hear your other thoughts.

 

[Pappy]

looks to me like all would be affected, given both scenarios