Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

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Septic said:
Greetings from Jost Van Dyke, BVI. I heard that since I've been gone things have spiraled out of control, I can't leave you guys alone for a second.
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Get to the Soggy Dollar ASAP and make that painkiller a double.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I'd like to think it reminds people of where this and almost every single major epidemic this century has come from. China. I hope people might stop and start thinking why do all these viruses start in China? Maybe people will start thinking about why the US and others are dependent on China for things like pharmaceuticals and rare earth minerals? Maybe wonder why China, while knowing about this since December, didn't try and contain it and instead ignored it and allowed to spread world wide?

China has benefited from the civilized world basically looking the other way since the 1980's while they scramble to create their giant economy and become a world power at almost any cost.

This century:
China

Polio..It starts with Polio..wtf..
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The world knows where the virus started. I'm fully aware they did nothing till way to late. I've been saying it here for quite a while. I'm not sure if it could really be contained in their own borders just due to the population size and amount of travel, but they didn't be even try to warn the world.

But for once I wish Trump would act like an adult and just deal with the problem at hand. Continually calling it the Chinese virus isn't going to make it any more known and if anything, due to Trumps boisterous exaggerations, questionable statements, and generally being disliked by much of the world, it may actually make people sympathetic to China and more likely to believe the bogus numbers and excuses coming from China.
 
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volfanjustin said:
So about 1.25 days worth, thanks for the update.
No it’s not, it puts this hysteria into context
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The math you're doing doesn't represent anything meaningful. Italy's worst flu seasons are 70 deaths a day. 2 weeks ago Italy had fewer than 100 deaths. Last week they were averaging about 80 a day. They had over 400 yesterday. People aren't afraid of 115 deaths, they are afraid of this becoming significantly worse than a bad flu season
 
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TheDeeble said:
The world knows where the virus started. I'm fully aware they did nothing till way to late. I've been saying it here for quite a while. I'm not sure if it could really be contained in their own borders just due to the population size and amount of travel, but they didn't be even try to warn the world.

But for once I wish Trump would act like an adult and just deal with the problem at hand. Continually calling it the Chinese virus isn't going to make it any more known and if anything, due to Trumps boisterous exaggerations, questionable statements, and generally being disliked by much of the world, it may actually make people sympathetic to China and more likely to believe the bogus numbers and excuses coming from China.
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Here, I will help you liberals out. Maybe he is too dumb to pronounce Coronavirus or he doesn’t want to sound as dumb as Biden by calling it Covid-18, I mean 81, no 16.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The math you're doing doesn't represent anything meaningful. Italy's worst flu seasons are 70 deaths a day. 2 weeks ago Italy had fewer than 100 deaths. Last week they were averaging about 80 a day. They had over 400 yesterday. People aren't afraid of 115 deaths, they are afraid of this becoming significantly worse than a bad flu season
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Turtle. Rabbit.

Yes, this hits a peak. Then winds down. If you disagree then you are proposing extinction. Which I know you're not. So you too, know the wind down will come. And the constant of other types of death will pass this in the dust.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The math you're doing doesn't represent anything meaningful. Italy's worst flu seasons are 70 deaths a day. 2 weeks ago Italy had fewer than 100 deaths. Last week they were averaging about 80 a day. They had over 400 yesterday. People aren't afraid of 115 deaths, they are afraid of this being significantly worse than a bad flu season
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I swear I never would have taken you for one of the ones pushing hysteria. 20,000 people a year die from the flu here and no one ever panics. We are likely over 50,000 deaths per year from auto accidents and no one stops driving over it. I could go on but it won’t make any difference to the hysteria we are all going to die crowd
 
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allvol123 said:
Well Tim Burchette sent me his newsletter. Among all the helpful tips:

If your kids feel sick, dont send them to school.


Umm...what effing school is open?

Rest assured, govt is on top of the situation.
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Didn't you get invited to his "tele town hall"?
You can join by calling (855) 710-6228 or visiting Live.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I swear I never would have taken you for one of the ones pushing hysteria. 20,000 people a year die from the flu here and no one ever panics. We are likely over 50,000 deaths per year from auto accidents and no one stops driving over it. I could go on but it won’t make any difference to the hysteria we are all going to die crowd
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Saying your math isn't valid is not "pushing hysteria". That statement is closer to pushing hysteria than what I'm doing.

If you want to calm people down, ******** math is not going to do it. If their fears are unfounded, it should be easy to address those. Again, nobody is afraid of 115 deaths. That's not what this is about.
 
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allvol123 said:
There is a day when this will no longer direct people's lives. Kinda like car wrecks.

Or you believe will live like this forever now?
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JFC are you serious? So you think comparing a car wreck, which is a one time event, to the spread of a virus that there is currently no vaccine for and can easily be passed from a “seemingly” healthy person to a person who may not be able to fight it is reasonable? On what effin planet do you live, man? What reality? In zero ways (zilch, none, not a single one) are these two things even remotely comparable.

And please do work on your reading comprehension and tell me where I said it would never end.
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volfanjustin said:
I swear I never would have taken you for one of the ones pushing hysteria. 20,000 people a year die from the flu here and no one ever panics. We are likely over 50,000 deaths per year from auto accidents and no one stops driving over it. I could go on but it won’t make any difference to the hysteria we are all going to die crowd
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I can understand where they're coming from just due to the ease with which it spreads. I may have it or you may have it right now and don't know because we aren't showing symptom yet. But we would be contagious to everyone we interact with for several days. And it can live for days on surfaces. So work, grocery, house, anywhere you touch stuff can leave the coronavirus on the surface for everyone else. Only until you show symptoms, if even gets that far, would you realize it. The scary thing about this virus isn't the mortality rate (outside of elderly population). It's the potential for infection.

I might not go as far as some or agree completely with shutting the world down, but I see where their concern is coming from.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. That is simply false and ignorant. The US has a very screwy convoluted way of paying for health care. However we have the most innovative medical industry in the world and in terms of broad access the greatest quality in the world.

Yeah. Anyone can make up a survey that delivers the results they want. And when the world needs new medicines and innovations... over half come from the US. Single payer rations care and leaves very little capital for R&D. People in those countries over pay for what they get.

Worse yet, countries like Canada transfer costs TO US. When a new medicine comes out in the US, the costs of R&D have to be covered by the early sales. Countries like Canada restrict margins on drug sales. Essentially they block drug companies from recouping R&D costs. That pushes even MORE of the burden on us.

The problem isn't that the US has too little government paid health care or regulation. The problem is we have far, far too much. The one sure way government could "help" is to force other countries to pay their "fair share" of R&D costs if they want the newest, best innovations and medicines before patents run out.

PS- the ONLY way those European countries were able to afford their socialized medicine is that we paid for most of their defense for about 80 years.


Costs driven up by ridiculous regulations and government interference in the free market. The actual cost of a doctor visit in the US is a fraction of what you or your insurance company gets charged. Regulations make up a large part as do invisible taxes where fixed pricing for government payments requires providers to transfer costs to private payers or insurers.
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Looks like my numbers were wrong. Turns out with a little research you can easily discover that Italy ranks 2nd in the world for quality of healthcare and the US ranks 37th. We will have to adopt nationalized healthcare to get through it because it is a vastly superior system. I know the systematic brainwashing you have fallen victim to prevents you from acknowledging this fact but some of us actually prefer the truth.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I can understand where they're coming from just due to the ease with which it spreads. I may have it or you may have it right now and don't know because we aren't showing symptom yet. But we would be contagious to everyone we interact with for several days. And it can live for days on surfaces. So work, grocery, house, anywhere you touch stuff can leave the coronavirus on the surface for everyone else. Only until you show symptoms, if even gets that far, would you realize it. The scary thing about this virus isn't the mortality rate (outside of elderly population). It's the potential for infection.

I might not go as far as some or agree completely with shutting the world down, but I see where their concern is coming from.
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I have no issues with being concerned and aware of the issue but what’s more dangerous is closing the country down and collapsing the economy over it.
 
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