2020 Presidential Race

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JCP201 said:
I didn't say it was. That said, if you are a hater, you could use that as a shield to downplay the true concerns of people of different races. I didn't realize that was happening till after Trump was elected and felt it was okay to be ugly and full of hate.

Edit: and I am not saying everyone who votes for Trump is full of hate or racist.
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Ding ding ding
 
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luthervol said:
That was misleading on my part.
I was, at least in my own head, saying that the bar for someone nominated as a candidate for POTUS, will never be lower.
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Stick around. It can always be lowered.

Bush was worst elected. And then obam was elected. And then we had a choice of hilary and trump, no way for either not to be worse. Now we have half of the worst back and the dredges of a party that has given up as our choices again. It's going to get worse again.

And then in 2024 it will get worse. And so on and so forth.

Remember you cant keep voting for the "not worst" candidate and think things will get better.
 
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MontyPython said:
Kelly Anne Conway coined the term "alternative facts". Most sane people recognized this as laughable. Apparently you took it to heart, and have been living in this alternate reality. Please lay off the Fox News eh.
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Never watch or read fox news. More of a BBC guy than anything. No I am not British, and I take my tea sweet.
 
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MontyPython said:
Kelly Anne Conway coined the term "alternative facts". Most sane people recognized this as laughable. Apparently you took it to heart, and have been living in this alternate reality. Please lay off the Fox News eh.
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Care to specify which of the points are alternate facts?
 
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JCP201 said:
I didn't say it was. That said, if you are a hater, you could use that as a shield to downplay the true concerns of people of different races. I didn't realize that was happening till after Trump was elected and felt it was okay to be ugly and full of hate.

Edit: and I am not saying everyone who votes for Trump is full of hate or racist.
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People who shout racist at everyone for every reason lack the capacity to understand logical thinking
 
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NashVol11 said:
“They’re not racist, they just happen to be used overwhelmingly by racist people”
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That’s cute , I like the “overwhelming “you put in there . Because I’m honest , I would have said MOST people that say blue lives matter and all lives matter , are terms used by intelligent, thoughtful and good people using their logic to fight off emotional cries of race baiting by groups , organizations, and politicians that use them to benefit or advance their agendas .
 
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0nelilreb said:
That’s cute , I like the “overwhelming “you put in there . Because I’m honest , I would have said MOST people that say blue lives matter and all lives matter , are terms used by intelligent, thoughtful and good people using their logic to fight off emotional cries of race baiting by groups , organizations, and politicians that use them to benefit or advance their agendas .
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I'd like to buy the world a coke and keep it company...

Anyone remember that commercial? Anyone remember when the message of universal worth and unity wasn't racist hate?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'd like to buy the world a coke and keep it company...

Anyone remember that commercial? Anyone remember when the message of universal worth and unity wasn't racist hate?
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Coke and Pepsi have had some really good ads over the years .
 
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JCP201 said:
I didn't say it was. That said, if you are a hater, you could use that as a shield to downplay the true concerns of people of different races. I didn't realize that was happening till after Trump was elected and felt it was okay to be ugly and full of hate.

Edit: and I am not saying everyone who votes for Trump is full of hate or racist.
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I’m still curious to an example of what you think “ugly and full of hate is”. Do you believe enforcing illegal immigration laws is hateful?
 
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NashVol11 said:
If the point is that we need to separate the phrase "All Lives Matter" from the racists who are just about the only ones using it, then yes, I'm ignoring the hell out of that point. It's useless.
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OK. So, you're immune to logic and mindlessly parroting fallacious arguments,

Carry on. I've done my civic duty of pointing it out.
 
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NashVol11 said:
If the point is that we need to separate the phrase "All Lives Matter" from the racists who are just about the only ones using it, then yes, I'm ignoring the hell out of that point. It's useless.
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Do you have any links for us all to see these over the top claims you are making or nah ?
 
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LouderVol said:
Care to specify which of the points are alternate facts?
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We need to:

Rejoin the world economy with treaties.
Treat our allies like allies.
Don't cozy up to autocrats.
Address climate change.
Ensure health care continues.
Require mandatory background checks on guns.
Allow reasonable immigration.
Don't insult everyone who didn't vote for you.
Unite instead of divide.

Trump fails on every count. If you don't recognize these facts, you're part of the problem.
 
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MontyPython said:
We need to:

Rejoin the world economy with treaties.
Treat our allies like allies.
Don't cozy up to autocrats.
Address climate change.
Ensure health care continues.
Require mandatory background checks on guns.
Allow reasonable immigration.
Don't insult everyone who didn't vote for you.
Unite instead of divide.

Trump fails on every count. If you don't recognize these facts, you're part of the problem.
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You really listening to way too many left leaning talking points if you think he fails on all of those.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
OK. So, you're immune to logic and mindlessly parroting fallacious arguments,

Carry on. I've done my civic duty of pointing it out.
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Think harder. Logically, both are counterpoints to someone saying that black lives matter, disingenuously attempting to muddy the waters by implying that we're hearing "only black lives matter" when literally no one, anywhere, was saying that. It's the racist's version of snowflakery, finding a nonexistent reason to be offended ("they think only black people matter??") and screaming about it. Both phrases are trash in the same way that the textualist "we just care about all people" fake-innocent defenses of them are trash, and any actual "logic" will generally lead right back to that.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Do you have any links for us all to see these over the top claims you are making or nah ?
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It doesn't matter (even though he's pulling vague stats out of his ___.) It's horribly fallacious logic that means nothing. It's fallacious to claim: Most ducks have two legs. NashVol11 has two legs. So NashVol is a duck...or is most likely a duck... or we should assume is a duck... Or people should cut one of their legs off so as not to be confused as a duck...

It's utter ignorance and complete lack of critical thinking.
 
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