2020 Presidential Race

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Rickyvol77 said:
Address climate change how exactly? The US already leads the way in this area

healthcare has went away?

There are already mandatory background checks on guns

Following immigration laws is reasonable

Looks like he has insulted a few already
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How dare you correct what someone misunderstood from propaganda and took as “ Facts” on a political forum. 😊
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Address climate change how exactly? The US already leads the way in this area

healthcare has went away?

There are already mandatory background checks on guns

Following immigration laws is reasonable

Looks like he has insulted a few already
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You left out a few.

The best way to rejoin the world economy via treaties is strong negotiation that represents American interests.
We treat our allies like allies when they act like allies. The more that comes out about foreign participation in Spygate is concerning, to say the least.
It could be argued that fake news and hyper-partisanism from both sides is what's chiefly dividing us.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Address climate change how exactly? The US already leads the way in this area

healthcare has went away?

There are already mandatory background checks on guns

Following immigration laws is reasonable

Looks like he has insulted a few already
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Leading the way in climate change? We are the worst carbon emitting country per capita. So I guess we are leading the way .... to disaster.
 
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MontyPython said:
Biden stronger in MI than HRC was. Bodes well to flip that state... only take 55K voters to go Biden instead of Trump v. 2016 election.

Biden will win PA and OH and probably even FL v. Trump.

I'm about 75% certain Biden will be our next President and end the insanity. Might even be a landlide.
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Biden isnt winning Florida. Can guarantee that.
 
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utvols88 said:
Biden isnt winning Florida. Can guarantee that.
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Ohhhhh reaaaaaally.

2016 Florida Popular vote

Trump 4,617,886
HRC 4,504,975

Won by 113K votes. Thus, all other things held equal, if 57K voters flip, Trump loses. That's 0.6% of the total FL population.

Tell me... how exactly are you guaranteeing Trump will win Florida?
 
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MontyPython said:
Ohhhhh reaaaaaally.

2016 Florida Popular vote

Trump 4,617,886
HRC 4,504,975

Won by 113K votes. Thus, all other things held equal, if 57K voters flip, Trump loses. That's 0.6% of the total FL population.

Tell me... how exactly are you guaranteeing Trump will win Florida?
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Since then Florida has voted in a republican governor and senator over long time democrat Bill Nelson.

You'll see.
 
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bnhunt said:
Check out my last post at 5:24 a.m. on Amateur Hour Continues thread. Cited to 3 articles to support an argument.
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Those 3 citations were editorials. You presented no facts. Just linked 3 editorials with no facts highlighted by you. We're not going to go on fishing expeditions around here. If you want to present a fact, do so, highlight it and tell where you got it from. It's no trick to find anti Trump editorials on the 'net these days. In fact it's hard to avoid the anti Trump rhetoric in the media these days
 
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UT_VOLS13 said:
So, how has your life changed in a negative way since Trump has been POTUS?
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raises hand:

I know some of my husband's family had to leave their church because it became very obvious that they were being outcast due to not voting for Trump. This is a Church they had been doing good works for years, including going into the community, visiting homeless shelters, etc. It started when they became uncomfortable with the pastor posting (apparent now) Russian Bot info during the 2016, which they would show was not true. Possibly caused resentment, I don't know. There was a church meeting about them a few months ago, and they finally decided to leave. We invited them to our non-partisan church and they seem happy, but I know that stings since they thought those people were their friends, and that they were worshiping God, not Donald Trump.

I have some acquaintances I had to block on social media because I have to associate with them and want to keep the peace. Their racism (which I had no idea) has come out, which upset me. I'd rather be oblivious.
 
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JCP201 said:
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I know some of my husband's family had to leave their church because it became very obvious that they were being outcast due to not voting for Trump. This is a Church they had been doing good works for years, including going into the community, visiting homeless shelters, etc. It started when they became uncomfortable with the pastor posting (apparent now) Russian Bot info during the 2016, which they would show was not true. Possibly caused resentment, I don't know. There was a church meeting about them a few months ago, and they finally decided to leave. We invited them to our non-partisan church and they seem happy, but I know that stings since they thought those people were their friends, and that they were worshiping God, not Donald Trump.

I have some acquaintances I had to block on social media because I have to associate with them and want to keep the peace. Their racism (which I had no idea) has come out, which upset me. I'd rather be oblivious.
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That is a horrible situation. Sorry about your friend and your situation.
 
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JCP201 said:
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I know some of my husband's family had to leave their church because it became very obvious that they were being outcast due to not voting for Trump. This is a Church they had been doing good works for years, including going into the community, visiting homeless shelters, etc. It started when they became uncomfortable with the pastor posting (apparent now) Russian Bot info during the 2016, which they would show was not true. Possibly caused resentment, I don't know. There was a church meeting about them a few months ago, and they finally decided to leave. We invited them to our non-partisan church and they seem happy, but I know that stings since they thought those people were their friends, and that they were worshiping God, not Donald Trump.

I have some acquaintances I had to block on social media because I have to associate with them and want to keep the peace. Their racism (which I had no idea) has come out, which upset me. I'd rather be oblivious.
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What you've described is a church problem and not a Trump problem. I couldn't tell you who anyone in my church votes for, including the Pastor. If this Pastor is posting political stuff I'd ask to be removed from the list
 
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volfanhill said:
That’s just dumb. Tell you what, I will donate to a charity of your choosing, $500 if Hillary is named as VP or nominated at the convention if it’s brokered. You donate to a charity of my choice if you are wrong.
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I'll match what you're offering without him having to double his amount.
 
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JCP201 said:
raises hand:

I know some of my husband's family had to leave their church because it became very obvious that they were being outcast due to not voting for Trump. This is a Church they had been doing good works for years, including going into the community, visiting homeless shelters, etc. It started when they became uncomfortable with the pastor posting (apparent now) Russian Bot info during the 2016, which they would show was not true. Possibly caused resentment, I don't know. There was a church meeting about them a few months ago, and they finally decided to leave. We invited them to our non-partisan church and they seem happy, but I know that stings since they thought those people were their friends, and that they were worshiping God, not Donald Trump.

I have some acquaintances I had to block on social media because I have to associate with them and want to keep the peace. Their racism (which I had no idea) has come out, which upset me. I'd rather be oblivious.
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Not sure how this is on Trump, but I guess this is the mindset of the modern left
 
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JCP201 said:
raises hand:

I know some of my husband's family had to leave their church because it became very obvious that they were being outcast due to not voting for Trump. This is a Church they had been doing good works for years, including going into the community, visiting homeless shelters, etc. It started when they became uncomfortable with the pastor posting (apparent now) Russian Bot info during the 2016, which they would show was not true. Possibly caused resentment, I don't know. There was a church meeting about them a few months ago, and they finally decided to leave. We invited them to our non-partisan church and they seem happy, but I know that stings since they thought those people were their friends, and that they were worshiping God, not Donald Trump.

I have some acquaintances I had to block on social media because I have to associate with them and want to keep the peace. Their racism (which I had no idea) has come out, which upset me. I'd rather be oblivious.
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It’s awful how many lose sight of the cross the second politics enters the equation.
 
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GAVol said:
The party of Bill Clinton doesn’t get to lead that lecture.
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Add JFK and LBJ to that list. In fact, I think Trump is a modern day LBJ with a bigger microphone (twitter) and a smaller internal filter.
 
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Sea Ray said:
What you've described is a church problem and not a Trump problem. I couldn't tell you who anyone in my church votes for, including the Pastor. If this Pastor is posting political stuff I'd ask to be removed from the list
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All I can say is everything was fine at that church before Trump and yes it is a church problem. It's also a problem that pastors like Franklin Graham can be horrified with Michelle Obama's arm but be perfectly okay with the first lady shown nude with another woman. Hypocrisy because you have an R or D in front of your name is not okay, and it is rampant right now. I include John Pavlovitz, on the Democratic side, because his dismissing of everyone who votes for Trump as a bad person. One of the sweetest people I know is a Republican and admittedly can not stand Trump, I am not going to outcast her, because she doesn't feel comfortable with Democrat policies and will hold her nose and vote for Trump, again.
 
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#28,649
JCP201 said:
raises hand:

I know some of my husband's family had to leave their church because it became very obvious that they were being outcast due to not voting for Trump. This is a Church they had been doing good works for years, including going into the community, visiting homeless shelters, etc. It started when they became uncomfortable with the pastor posting (apparent now) Russian Bot info during the 2016, which they would show was not true. Possibly caused resentment, I don't know. There was a church meeting about them a few months ago, and they finally decided to leave. We invited them to our non-partisan church and they seem happy, but I know that stings since they thought those people were their friends, and that they were worshiping God, not Donald Trump.

I have some acquaintances I had to block on social media because I have to associate with them and want to keep the peace. Their racism (which I had no idea) has come out, which upset me. I'd rather be oblivious.
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I hope your hubby's family have a found a church which serves their souls and brings them a stronger relationship with God instead of the political group masquerading as a church they previously had.
 
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JCP201 said:
raises hand:

I know some of my husband's family had to leave their church because it became very obvious that they were being outcast due to not voting for Trump. This is a Church they had been doing good works for years, including going into the community, visiting homeless shelters, etc. It started when they became uncomfortable with the pastor posting (apparent now) Russian Bot info during the 2016, which they would show was not true. Possibly caused resentment, I don't know. There was a church meeting about them a few months ago, and they finally decided to leave. We invited them to our non-partisan church and they seem happy, but I know that stings since they thought those people were their friends, and that they were worshiping God, not Donald Trump.

I have some acquaintances I had to block on social media because I have to associate with them and want to keep the peace. Their racism (which I had no idea) has come out, which upset me. I'd rather be oblivious.
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Sounds like your husband’s family have some issues if others’ political views gets in the way of living their lives. Do they believe in gay marriage and abortion? That usually leaves some hurt feelings in churches because those things are incompatible with God’s teachings
 
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