Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[lawgator1]

By the WHO's numbers, it's more contagious than Ebola. Explains hazmat suits.

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You can choose to believe one of two things:

1) This is a form of mass hysteria concerning a problem blown way out of proportion, primarily by the media to generate clicks and views; or,

2) You can believe the obvious concern exhibited by international, national, and state and local officials and experts who obviously don't think this is just another flu.

 

[volbeast33]

You can choose to believe one of two things:

1) This is a form of mass hysteria concerning a problem blown way out of proportion, primarily by the media to generate clicks and views; or,

2) You can believe the obvious concern exhibited by international, national, and state and local officials and experts who obviously don't think this is just another flu.

I think it’s a mixture of the two

 

[Septic]

Imagine that...more top scores for Trump. Even batsh!t crazy liberal governors are praising him.

there is some irony in there, I just know it.

 

[hUTch2002]

With what is known and still unknown about Covid-19 here’s an internal question I wish everyone on the planet would ask themselves, what’s your number?

How many folks are you perfectly comfortable with infecting and possibly killing, including family and friends, because you won’t take the precautions associated with limiting the spread of this virus or you don’t take the potential this virus carries seriously? Just a thought to ponder

38.76

 

[rjd970]

You can choose to believe one of two things:

1) This is a form of mass hysteria concerning a problem blown way out of proportion, primarily by the media to generate clicks and views; or,

2) You can believe the obvious concern exhibited by international, national, and state and local officials and experts who obviously don't think this is just another flu.

I choose to believe the international, national, and state and local officials want us to be concerned and diligent.

The press wants us all out buying ammo, stocking toilet paper, and selling stocks in preparation for the pending societal collapse.

There is a difference.

 

[lawgator1]

I think it’s a mixture of the two

Fair enough. I trend toward the latter, generally, but acknowledge the former has merit in particular aspects of this. I reject the notion that US towns are on the verge of shutdown just to amp up panic and hurt Trump because we've seen China, Italy, and others do the same thing in an effort to shut down transmission.

Granted, it has mixed success. But I don't see the rationale of not trying.

 

[rjd970]

New Rochelle, NY has a containment area and the national guard has been deployed because 15 people have tested positive for COVID-19.

I would be really curious to know how many people in that community, right now, have the Flu....you know, being it is more deadly.

I'll say it again....this is past stupid.

 

[05_never_again]

Fair enough. I trend toward the latter, generally, but acknowledge the former has merit in particular aspects of this. I reject the notion that US towns are on the verge of shutdown just to amp up panic and hurt Trump because we've seen China, Italy, and others do the same thing in an effort to shut down transmission.

Granted, it has mixed success. But I don't see the rationale of not trying.

US towns are on the verge of shutdown simply because people are panicking. I don't think it is part of some deliberate effort to amp up panic, and it isn't being done to hurt Trump. 90% of the panic about this is because it's something new and unknown.

It isn't exactly like the flu, and Trump's public statements to that effect are stupid, but I think you can believe at the same time that many of the reactions to this are panicky. Many of the reactions we are seeing (the hoarding of supplies, bans on gatherings, discussions of potential martial law, etc.) make sense only if this virus had a death rate much higher, like 10% or more.

Having said that, this thing is kind of like a glorified seasonal flu that is slightly more deadly (particularly for the elderly) and for which there is no vaccine. That's reason to be concerned, possibly cancel an overseas flight, work from home (especially if it is spreading locally), etc., but it isn't a reason to outright panic. If, say, 1 in 10 or 1 in 5 people overall who caught it died, then that would be a reason to panic.

 

[OHvol40]

New Rochelle, NY has a containment area and the national guard has been deployed because 15 people have tested positive for COVID-19.

I would be really curious to know how many people in that community, right now, have the Flu....you know, being it is more deadly.

I'll say it again....this is past stupid.

The flu has a much lower mortality rate. We also have a flu vaccine to mitigate the effects. The narrative you’re perpetrating is beyond stupid, and potentially dangerous.

 

[JCP201]

Most of the deaths right now are at that nursing home in Washington. The others are 1 or 2 in various states which are spread out. Hoping that all this blanket media has caused Americans to really take precaution. Certainly you think they must have, because I can't find hand sanitizer anywhere.

 

[lawgator1]

US towns are on the verge of shutdown simply because people are panicking. I don't think it is part of some deliberate effort to amp up panic, and it isn't being done to hurt Trump. 90% of the panic about this is because it's something new and unknown.

It isn't exactly like the flu, and Trump's public statements to that effect are stupid, but I think you can believe at the same time that many of the reactions to this are panicky. Many of the reactions we are seeing (the hoarding of supplies, bans on gatherings, discussions of potential martial law, etc.) make sense only if this virus had a death rate much higher, like 10% or more.

Having said that, this thing is kind of like a glorified seasonal flu that is slightly more deadly (particularly for the elderly) and for which there is no vaccine. That's reason to be concerned, possibly cancel an overseas flight, work from home (especially if it is spreading locally), etc., but it isn't a reason to outright panic. If, say, 1 in 10 or 1 in 5 people overall who caught it died, then that would be a reason to panic.

Generally agree. But the last part, I think it is too early to tell. And because there is no vaccine to inhibit it, the unknown causes a lot of worry. In my own case, we have taken steps such that my parents limit public outings, including grocery shopping.

The US population over the age of 60, which is considered a bit higher risk, is 52 million. Let's round down to 50 million for ease of math.

If just twenty percent end up getting it this year, and let's say the death rate is 2 % (a bit lower than current rates, but justified by theoretically better treatment here), that yields:

50,000,000 X 20% = 10,000,000 with the virus.

Of which 200,000 would die. And that's simply deaths caused by this in the most at risk group. It does not count severe, debilitating illnesses in the same group, or younger people who are also at risk for various reasons.

That's just twenty percent getting it, which might be conservative if we don't take steps to contain and mitigate transmission where we can.

 

[37L1]

Most of the deaths right now are at that Nursing home it spread through. The others are 1 or 2 in various states which are spread out. Hoping that all this blanket media has caused Americans to really take precaution. Certainly you think they must have, because I can't find hand sanitizer anywhere.

Well, you could wrap your hands in toilet paper.

Oh, wait. . . .

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Fair enough. I trend toward the latter, generally, but acknowledge the former has merit in particular aspects of this. I reject the notion that US towns are on the verge of shutdown just to amp up panic and hurt Trump because we've seen China, Italy, and others do the same thing in an effort to shut down transmission.

Granted, it has mixed success. But I don't see the rationale of not trying.

My wife told me today that the gym where she works has had people calling in wondering if they were going to be closed for Corona. There are ZERO cases in Brevard county as of now. Zero.

Mass... ****ing... hysteria.

Very similar to what we have seen with people like luther and the rest of the left regarding Mr Trump.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Generally agree. But the last part, I think it is too early to tell. And because there is no vaccine to inhibit it, the unknown causes a lot of worry. In my own case, we have taken steps such that my parents limit public outings, including grocery shopping.

The US population over the age of 60, which is considered a bit higher risk, is 52 million. Let's round down to 50 million for ease of math.

If just twenty percent end up getting it this year, and let's say the death rate is 2 % (a bit lower than current rates, but justified by theoretically better treatment here), that yields:

50,000,000 X 20% = 10,000,000 with the virus.

Of which 200,000 would die. And that's simply deaths caused by this in the most at risk group. It does not count severe, debilitating illnesses in the same group, or younger people who are also at risk for various reasons.

That's just ten percent getting it, which might be conservative if we don't take steps to contain and mitigate transmission where we can.

Lord have mercy. If if if if if if.

 

[allvol123]

Generally agree. But the last part, I think it is too early to tell. And because there is no vaccine to inhibit it, the unknown causes a lot of worry. In my own case, we have taken steps such that my parents limit public outings, including grocery shopping.

The US population over the age of 60, which is considered a bit higher risk, is 52 million. Let's round down to 50 million for ease of math.

If just twenty percent end up getting it this year, and let's say the death rate is 2 % (a bit lower than current rates, but justified by theoretically better treatment here), that yields:

50,000,000 X 20% = 10,000,000 with the virus.

Of which 200,000 would die. And that's simply deaths caused by this in the most at risk group. It does not count severe, debilitating illnesses in the same group, or younger people who are also at risk for various reasons.

That's just ten percent getting it, which might be conservative if we don't take steps to contain and mitigate transmission where we can.

You're all over it hoss.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Well, you could wrap your hands in toilet paper.

Oh, wait. . . .

Gator.... public school educated in Florida... seems about right.


LOL

 

[lawgator1]

Check your math, Dingus.

I re-did it as you replied. Sorry. Was thinking of 25 percent originally.

 

[JCP201]

Well, you could wrap your hands in toilet paper.

Oh, wait. . . .

My sister actually had to buy toilet paper on Amazon. I live in a rural community, I guess we can still use the Sears catalog... Oh wait.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

unposted

 

[37L1]

I re-did it as you replied. Sorry. Was thinking of 25 percent originally.

OK, I see you caught it as I posted. But still it doesn't get any easier than multiplying by .10, I thought you might be channeling Brian Williams, LOL.

 

[allvol123]

Lord have mercy. If if if if if if.

Placing an honest guess here, but I'd say when he goes out with a woman, she drives.

 

[37L1]

Placing an honest guess here, but I'd say when he goes out with a woman, she drives.

That's brutal, man.

 

[lawgator1]

OK, I see you caught it as I posted. But still it doesn't get any easier than multiplying by .10, I thought you might be channeling Brian Williams, LOL.

I think I had gone to .20, no?

 

[37L1]

I think I had gone to .20, no?

You did but after you posted .10, that's what I responded to but you got it changed in a nick of time. If only I didn't stop to check my own math first

 

[05_never_again]

Generally agree. But the last part, I think it is too early to tell. And because there is no vaccine to inhibit it, the unknown causes a lot of worry. In my own case, we have taken steps such that my parents limit public outings, including grocery shopping.

The US population over the age of 60, which is considered a bit higher risk, is 52 million. Let's round down to 50 million for ease of math.

If just twenty percent end up getting it this year, and let's say the death rate is 2 % (a bit lower than current rates, but justified by theoretically better treatment here), that yields:

50,000,000 X 20% = 10,000,000 with the virus.

Of which 200,000 would die. And that's simply deaths caused by this in the most at risk group. It does not count severe, debilitating illnesses in the same group, or younger people who are also at risk for various reasons.

That's just twenty percent getting it, which might be conservative if we don't take steps to contain and mitigate transmission where we can.

I don't think anybody is saying that no steps should be taken to contain and mitigate. The question is what should those steps be.

Given what we know about the virus and that there's no vaccine for it, it would seem logical that we take steps that go a little above and beyond what we do for seasonal flu. Stuff like more telework, limiting travel, etc. This wouldn't mean hoarding toilet paper, banning gatherings, bringing in the National Guard in certain situations, etc. You can take this seriously, more seriously than seasonal flu, yet not become hysterical.