2020 Presidential Race

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hog88 said:
I think the next IN Senate race is in 2022 so that is a possibility the next Governors race he can get into would be 2024 so I doubt he would try that. DNC must have promised him a VP spot or a prime cabinet position in exchange for dropping out.
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I agree with the last part. I couldn't see him winning the Governor spot in IN, he's too far left.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I certainly will be voting for President Trump, I have always known what he is about I also know the great things he's done. You are a leftist and will vote for whichever socialist the radical left party tells you to.

Biden has lost it, I think something is medically wrong with him. If he had a supportive family they would step in, but since they all got rich due to him they need him to stay in the race.
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I may cross over tomorrow and vote for Bernie:D:D:D:D:D
 
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JCP201 said:
As far as I know, nobody has came forward and said he molested them. If they do, I hope they throw the book at him. So far, he just makes people uncomfortable with his closeness. OTOH, people who were teenagers as young as 14 have said Trump ogled them while dressing -and he admitted as much on Howard Stern, also admitted lusting after his daughter.. Trump thought there were airports during the revolutionary war, and made weathermen change the maps due to his gaffes. BUT.. you think Biden, who travels constantly is worse for forgetting the state or wrongly stating Senate rather than President, when he'd been a Senator for most of his life?

If that is the reason to vote against Biden in favor of Trump, then it is a poor one. Just admit that you will vote for Trump anyway, because you already know about the cruelty and background and don't care.

The difference is that I know about it and I do care.
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Trump is a creep, but if he's ogling naked teenagers, where are the criminal charges? And from what I understand, what he admitted to on Stern involved contestants in the adult pageant, not the teenage pageant. It speaks to his crassness that he was bragging about it, but changing backstage is part of the pageant world. They choose to be involved in that world. I don't think Trump is a good guy, but believing everything you hear about him is no different than those who believed everything about Obama. It's rooted more in dislike for the man than anything actually proven.

As for Biden, it's more than just gaffes. He's "remembering" things that didn't happen. That should be concerning.
 
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Weezer said:
Trump is a creep, but if he's ogling naked teenagers, where are the criminal charges? And from what I understand, what he admitted to on Stern involved contestants in the adult pageant, not the teenage pageant. It speaks to his crassness that he was bragging about it, but changing backstage is part of the pageant world. They choose to be involved in that world. I don't think Trump is a good guy, but believing everything you hear about him is no different than those who believed everything about Obama. It's rooted more in dislike for the man than anything actually proven.

As for Biden, it's more than just gaffes. He's "remembering" things that didn't happen. That should be concerning.
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What do you think the dislike for Trump is based on?
 
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bnhunt said:
Why do you get to choose what a woman does with her body? You people want the govt out of your lives unless you want them to be involved. Another contradiction.
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Wait what ? If a woman goes to a federally funded abortion clinic, and I oppose this , how is this a contradiction in me wanting less government ? Now if she does this on her own what would we call it ? Don’t you think it’s strange that if she goes to a federally funded center it’s called abortion , but if she does it on her own it’s called murder ? I don’t seem to be the one with contradictions.
 
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Weezer said:
He's a pompous, arrogant, piece of **** human being. But history has shown that doesn't disqualify one from being President.
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But what has he done to make him a pompous, arrogant, piece of **** human being?

Those of us who think he is (or at least me) would be interested to see a list of examples of Trump shittiness about which a consensus can be reached that it actually happened and that it makes him a ****** person.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
But what has he done to make him a pompous, arrogant, piece of **** human being?

Those of us who think he is (or at least me) would be interested to see a list of examples of Trump shittiness about which a consensus can be reached that it actually happened and that it makes him a ****** person.
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Pomposity and arrogance are demonstrated in how he talks. But I think many Presidents have those attributes. I thought Obama had it to a degree. Clinton as well. W was just a goofball.

What makes him a POS IMO, is cheating on his wife, maybe wives, with porn stars. We know that to be true. Maybe some of the speculation is true as well, but we don't know. Stating speculation as fact is ignorant.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
But what has he done to make him a pompous, arrogant, piece of **** human being?

Those of us who think he is (or at least me) would be interested to see a list of examples of Trump shittiness about which a consensus can be reached that it actually happened and that it makes him a ****** person.
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He's a New Yorker......duh!
 
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hog88 said:
I think the next IN Senate race is in 2022 so that is a possibility the next Governors race he can get into would be 2024 so I doubt he would try that. DNC must have promised him a VP spot or a prime cabinet position in exchange for dropping out.
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lol. And he looked around at tree remaining candidates and thought that a possibility? He dumber than i thought
 
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Weezer said:
Trump is a creep, but if he's ogling naked teenagers, where are the criminal charges? And from what I understand, what he admitted to on Stern involved contestants in the adult pageant, not the teenage pageant. It speaks to his crassness that he was bragging about it, but changing backstage is part of the pageant world. They choose to be involved in that world. I don't think Trump is a good guy, but believing everything you hear about him is no different than those who believed everything about Obama. It's rooted more in dislike for the man than anything actually proven.

As for Biden, it's more than just gaffes. He's "remembering" things that didn't happen. That should be concerning.
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Trump remembers things that didn't happen every day. It's called lying.

So, according to you, if you join a pageant, you should expect to be ogled (while naked) by some dirty old man?
 
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JCP201 said:
Trump remembers things that didn't happen every day. It's called lying.

So, according to you, if you join a pageant, you should expect to be ogled (while naked) by some dirty old man?
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I think if you know you have to change in an open backstage, people are going to see you naked. And the owner of the pageant is one of those people who might see you naked.
 
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Weezer said:
I think if you know you have to change in an open backstage, people are going to see you naked. And the owner of the pageant is one of those people who might see you naked.
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- So, the teens don't change in an open backstage? Is there anything you won't defend Trump for?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Having the leftist agenda started by the chosen one stopped in its tracks, and reversed.
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Not just having an agenda stopped, but having this guy from "the outside" being the one to stop it.

Part of the reason leftist vitriol against Trump surpasses anything we saw against McCain, Romney, and Bush (although they called all 3 of them racists too) is that he came from outside the system to do it. Not only do they disagree with him politically, he's also an outsider who beat them at their own game. That just turbocharges how much they'd already hate him if he was an insider.

One of the funniest thoughts of all time is that Hillary has to wake up every morning and ask herself how'd she lose in 2008 to a guy nobody other than political junkies had heard of before, and then lost in 2016 to a reality TV star who'd never run for or held any political office before. It's absolutely hilarious. Just think how you'd react if somebody told you in 2008 "If you think this is funny...after Obama serves his 2 terms, Hillary will run again but will lose to Donald Trump." You'd think that person was on meth.
 
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JCP201 said:
Trump remembers things that didn't happen every day. It's called lying.

So, according to you, if you join a pageant, you should expect to be ogled (while naked) by some dirty old man?
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I think that if you participate in a beauty pageant there should be some expectations of being ogled by dirty old men.
 
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hog88 said:
I think that if you participate in a beauty pageant there should be some expectations of being ogled by dirty old men.
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Yes, I've known some beauty contestants, and I'm sure they knew when they got up on stage in a bathing suit they would be ogled for that scholarship and crown. That said, I don't think being naked was part of the deal.

Edit: and Hog, I've read what you said about daughters. If my daughter was in a pageant to get a scholarship to go to school, and some dirty old man was backstage looking at her naked, he would not have nuts anymore if my husband found out about it.
 
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