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NurseGoodVol said:
JIT delivery has screwed any emergency up and no secondary backup just like with iv fluids and the Puerto Rico debacle. They aren't prepared.
Betcha I run into some drug shortages within the next 2 weeks because we don't have a secondary source we are minimally ordering from to cover some drugs made in mainland China.
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I went to pick up an rx for my mother from CVS and it can't be filled untill tomorrow. Out of Prednisone 20mg.
 
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volfanhill said:
You clearly know more about this then I do. I would just say we have had years to prepare. These aren’t perishable items.
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This isn’t like vaccines or spam that can be stockpiled for years. Medical facilities go thru these types of masks by the dozens daily.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
This isn’t like vaccines or spam that can be stockpiled for years. Medical facilities go thru these types of masks by the dozens daily.
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That doesn’t mean they can’t be stock piled. I mean, maybe I am wrong, but we are the richest country on earth and our hospitals don’t have enough masks for something that we have been concerned about for years? Doesn’t make sense to me.
 
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volfanhill said:
That doesn’t mean they can’t be stock piled. I mean, maybe I am wrong, but we are the richest country on earth and our hospitals don’t have enough masks for something that we have been concerned about for years? Doesn’t make sense to me.
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We haven’t been concerned for years about this. We have protocols in place for a pandemic. This one affects the masks more than others bc it affects both the companies in China that makes them and the shipping to getting them here. If it wasn’t for the media and idiots spreading panic when there doesnt need to be, it wouldn’t be a big deal.

We are ok, there is no reason to panic at this time
 
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volfanhill said:
That doesn’t mean they can’t be stock piled. I mean, maybe I am wrong, but we are the richest country on earth and our hospitals don’t have enough masks for something that we have been concerned about for years? Doesn’t make sense to me.
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Get this... We've stopped handing them out to people visiting. There are no longer masks at the entrances. One unit with only employee use goes through 150 masks a day. We have the influenza A pts.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
We haven’t been concerned for years about this. We have protocols in place for a pandemic. This one affects the masks more than others bc it affects both the companies in China that makes them and the shipping to getting them here. If it wasn’t for the media and idiots spreading panic when there doesnt need to be, it wouldn’t be a big deal.

We are ok, there is no reason to panic at this time
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After watching its spread, it's mortality, I'm no longer concerned about a pandemic.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Are you one of the people who believe China, South Korea, Japan, Italy, and Iran all did this just to make Trump look bad? I honestly don't know what Trump or the election has to do with with this.
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Nope. That’s a ridiculous theory. The connection is your belief in silly numbers that are only accurate if they tell the tale you like.
 
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allvol123 said:
Why would privatized healthcare providers do that themselves?
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Yep, the modern business motto is screw stock, order according to immediate need. Logistics, logistics, logistics - let someone else bear the cost. Oops. When times are bad and you really need stuff, that's when you can't get it because the rest of the system has broken down.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
After watching its spread, it's mortality, I'm no longer concerned about a pandemic.
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Have you read The Great Influenza? I am about 1/3 of the way through it. Interesting how that particular strain of the flu, in the pandemic of 1918, had a pretty low mortality rate for the first few months, till mid-year. But through “passage” - after a dozen or more H2H generations - it adapted to humans (I suppose through mutation) and became far more lethal. The more lethal derivative erupted at about the same time in various parts of the world starting in July. Which also tends to debunk the notion that warmer weather will stop it - maybe it will, maybe it won’t, but nobody can say for sure at this point. Hopefully we don’t see similar behavior with this coronavirus.
 
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AM64 said:
Yep, the modern business motto is screw stock, order according to immediate need. Logistics, logistics, logistics - let someone else bear the cost. Oops. When times are bad and you really need stuff, that's when you can't get it because the rest of the system has broken down.
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That’s why I am at my warehouse every day. Too many customers wanting JIT delivery.
 
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RavinDave said:
Have you read The Great Influenza? I am about 1/3 of the way through it. Interesting how that particular strain of the flu, in the pandemic of 1918, had a pretty low mortality rate for the first few months, till mid-year. But through “passage” - after a dozen or more H2H generations - it adapted to humans (I suppose through mutation) and became far more lethal. The more lethal derivative erupted at about the same time in various parts of the world starting in July. Which also tends to debunk the notion that warmer weather will stop it - maybe it will, maybe it won’t, but nobody can say for sure at this point. Hopefully we don’t see similar behavior with this coronavirus.
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I'll check it out. I tracked Ebola pretty closely and the different strains as they came out.
Viruses and bacteria are impressive when it comes to adapting to survive.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
This is something that's perplexed me. Several cases of no H2H transmission. There has to be another carrier or vector.
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Always, they haven't done the detective work thoroughly to find the go between - whether person, animal, plant, shipped product, or whatever.
 
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AM64 said:
Always, they haven't done the detective work thoroughly to find the go between - whether person, animal, plant, shipped product, or whatever.
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I think if the cdc was tracking from onset, they would know. The secrecy aspect of China's government prevented that.
 
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I'm still wondering right now what the mortality rate is right now for corona virus compared with the regular flu...
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
We haven’t been concerned for years about this. We have protocols in place for a pandemic. This one affects the masks more than others bc it affects both the companies in China that makes them and the shipping to getting them here. If it wasn’t for the media and idiots spreading panic when there doesnt need to be, it wouldn’t be a big deal.

We are ok, there is no reason to panic at this time
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When things go wrong why would you expect them to be going right? If things are as reported in China, even shipping of existing stocks is compromised. This is a disease, it could be war, it could be a fuel crisis, or it could be extreme weather. In the past, unions have had to be forced to keep supplies moving. Preparedness by those providing essential functions is a necessity ... a little like a fire department without a contingency plan for fuel. Deciding to run an essential business is not really different from that old thing about flying ... takeoffs are optional; landings are mandatory.
 
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