2020 Presidential Race

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#26,376
volfanjustin said:
Last night was the first time I've watched more than 10 minutes of the schiff show known as the democrat debates. First they are all light weights
Biden-something is medically wrong with him, he jumbles his words too much and forgets where he is
BOOTY EDGE EDGE-is a socialist who speaks softly and well but never loses his cool like his grumpy uncle Bernie
Bernie-he's a communist
Amy K-she's thin skinned, gets angry way too fast. Trump would destroy her in a debate
Warren-I have no idea what her policies would be, all I hear her say is do this for the black community, do that for the hispanic community blah blah blah
Bloomberg-he's a stiff and got whipped. Other than his anti 2A crap he had to be thinking there is now way he belongs in the modern dem/socialist party
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lol, Trump is not showing up to a debate.
 
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It appears to me from reading this thread, quite a few people have their favorites and would pick them regardless of how the debate ended up. They could have had their head lopped off on stage during the introductions and people would still think they "won" the debate. Or they didn't watch it and had a predetermined pick.

Here's an outsider, objective view of the six participants from left to right on the stage to be fair:

Bloomberg: Grade D- Really didn't have a good showing, but went total Trump in calling out his opponents. He was unprepared and rarely discussed policy which was a good thing for his opponents since his policies aren't as radical as theirs and would have made sense to voters. They seemed to understand how dangerous he is and will become a threat.

Warren: Grade C Led the attack on Bloomberg, but is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic with her campaign. She's failing fast and hoped some cheap shots at Bloomberg would help her along. She talked some policy, but NBC is guilty of lobbing softballs over the plate to every candidate. No real movement except the 10 second soundbites that will be played for the next week or so.

Bernie: Grade B+ Didn't win or lose, however, Bloomberg calling him out on his number of homes and financial status was an indicator of how nasty this fight is going to be in the future. Do his supporters care? Nah, they knew it already and don't care an avowed socialist is doing far better than they ever dreamed of doing. He stuck to his message and didn't deviate.

Joe Biden: Grade D- He's failing fast and tried the adulting thing by not taking shots at his opponent. However, for a self proclaimed "fighter" there were plenty of opportunities to show the audience he's capable of taking the fight to Trump and winning the Party as well as undecided voters to his side. He passed on the opportunity. I'll give his campaign another month before he folds completely.

Mayor Pete: Grade B- He had a win in Iowa, talks good points, isn't willing to get as crazy as Bernie or Warren and clearly understands Bernie is the biggest threat in the room. But... his nice guy routine isn't going to win points with the base overall. He took his shots at Bernie, but did it in a "aww, shucks" kind of manner. He'll win a few things here and there and will make it to the convention, but cannot take the nomination overall. In short, he's the Marco Rubio of the DNC for 2020.

Amy Klobuchar: Grade B- It was clear the moderators weren't going to give her any slack and even be hostile to her over some things. She's also a centrist like Pete that isn't going to get crazy with the ideas and could gain traction with the moderate Democratic vote. Like Bernie, she stuck to her message and called out her opponents on some of their ideas. But can she move the needle on her campaign enough to pull out a top 3 win on Super Tuesday?

Biggest winner from last night? President Trump. None of the Democrats were tossing out anything new or groundbreaking that will resonate with the undecided voters. It was more "let's get rid of Trump" more than actual policies of why their plans would work better than what President Trump has done. Of course, raising taxes which will not resonate with voters.

President Trump is in the catbird seat at the moment and he just needs to stick to his accomplishments over the last 3 years and remind people they are better off now than before he was elected.
 
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hog88 said:
I’ll bet money none of those on stage last night will be the nominee. Dems you are looking at a contested convention and Michelle or someone else as your nominee.
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Democrats have screwed themselves.

They allowed Bernie to run on their platform (again) and it's costing them dearly this time.

They really wanted Joe Biden, but one person is responsible for him failing miserably at the moment (Joe Biden).

They are letting the process go at the moment, but scared to death Bernie is going to get the first round votes needed to lock up the convention.

It will be a brokered convention (they'll rig it again)

Bernie won't stand behind the nominee this time if they steal it from him (again) and they lose his voting base.

Moderates don't hate President Trump enough to get behind a socialist if Bernie does get the nomination and they lose that voting base.

President Trump's 2016 electoral votes could increase in 2020 because the Democrats are stupid.
 
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VolStrom said:
Just to be concise:
“Under the compact, Virginia agrees to award its electoral votes to the presidential ticket that receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia,”
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So, in other words, they’ve minimized the impact of their own voters.
 
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hog88 said:
I’ll bet money none of those on stage last night will be the nominee. Dems you are looking at a contested convention and Michelle or someone else as your nominee.
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When they have a brokered convention and they screw bernie out of it, whats going to happen?
 
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#26,395
zeppelin128 said:
It doesn't matter what I say or any proof about anything with you. You despise Pete and his supporters. No need for us to discuss it further, it is a waste of time on both our parts.
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Better grow some reeeeeeally thick skin amigo. Petey needs votes. Lots of them that he ain't got. The others that are in love with him ain't enough so you need more of 'us'.
 
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hog88 said:
They will be good little minions and get behind whoever the nominee is. It’s what they do, you think Luther, Mick, Evil and LG are going to think for themselves?
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Thinking for myself led me directly to Anybody but Trump.
 
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