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The WHO daily briefing says its still to early to say the decline will continue. Furthermore about 80% of cases are mild and will recover, 14% will see severe disease, including pneumonia & shortness of breath. About 5% of patients have critical disease including. respiratory failure, septic shock & multi-organ failure. Finally about 2% of those who will catch this will die and that increases with age.
 
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So removing the Wuhan/Hubei numbers there were more international cases than cases in the rest of China. Does anyone really believe this?
 
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I’m starting to wonder how many more cases we have here that aren’t being tested, as not meeting the outlined criteria, or just aren’t being reported for public consumption for whatever purpose.

Has anybody seen documentation of the number of pneumonia deaths this year versus prior years during flu season?
 
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DynaLo said:
I’m starting to wonder how many more cases we have here that aren’t being tested, as not meeting the outlined criteria, or just aren’t being reported for public consumption for whatever purpose.

Has anybody seen documentation of the number of pneumonia deaths this year versus prior years during flu season?
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Stories like below are starting to pop up in different cities. How many times did they actually get tested and over what period of time?

Only once and let go? Irresponsible and unsafe.


Cuomo: 22 coronavirus test results turn up negative in New York
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
The further away from the mainland it seems to be less virulent. That is what I'm seeing and that is good news for other countries.
We've had 40 deaths from flu/pneumonia in Virginia according to the cdc. They parse flu with pneumonia stats, that is a questionable practice.
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I'd like to know more about this and the behavior of viruses over distances but unfortunately I don't think any one person has the answer. I've been wondering from the beginning of this if there was something causing Chinese people to die far more easily from this than others. Are our immune systems just that much more exposed and veteran than that of people living in China? How many different factors are involved here?

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Stats coming from the cruise ship may give us the best data on this.
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No, you absolutely cannot take any helpful data from that cruise ship. There was no true quarantine on that ship. They were allowed to leave their rooms and wander about for an hour every few days. There were over 1000 cruise ship workers that were roaming the ship throughout the quarantine. It was said in the news that cruise workers were testing positive for the virus some workers were positive while they were visiting passengers rooms.

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I see today's numbers as a justification for the CCP allowing the country to return to work this week.
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That would be a huge mistake if they decided to do that. On the other hand the news about most of China being on lockdown and home arrest leads me to believe they don't plan on going back to work for a while.

DynaLo said:
I’m starting to wonder how many more cases we have here that aren’t being tested, as not meeting the outlined criteria, or just aren’t being reported for public consumption for whatever purpose.

Has anybody seen documentation of the number of pneumonia deaths this year versus prior years during flu season?
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I still haven't heard ANY updates on the San Benito couple that are at UCSF Parnassus. Until I read otherwise I truly believe those people are dead by now but it's not being reported.
 
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Coug said:
I'd like to know more about this and the behavior of viruses over distances but unfortunately I don't think any one person has the answer. I've been wondering from the beginning of this if there was something causing Chinese people to die far more easily from this than others. Are our immune systems just that much more exposed and veteran than that of people living in China? How many different factors are involved here?



No, you absolutely cannot take any helpful data from that cruise ship. There was no true quarantine on that ship. They were allowed to leave their rooms and wander about for an hour every few days. There were over 1000 cruise ship workers that were roaming the ship throughout the quarantine. It was said in the news that cruise workers were testing positive for the virus some workers were positive while they were visiting passengers rooms.



That would be a huge mistake if they decided to do that. On the other hand the news about most of China being on lockdown and home arrest leads me to believe they don't plan on going back to work for a while.



I still haven't heard ANY updates on the San Benito couple that are at UCSF Parnassus. Until I read otherwise I truly believe those people are dead by now but it's not being reported.
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All I could find on them.

Two other Northern California cases were confirmed Feb. 2 in San Benito County, a husband and wife both age 57. San Benito County health officials said the husband recently traveled from Wuhan, but his wife did not and was believed to have been infected through him. They were later transferred to the University of California San Francisco hospital for a higher level of care.

San Benito County health department spokeswoman Samela Perez said they were “not at liberty to discuss” the couple’s condition but would not offer further explanation. The San Francisco Department of Public Health said Friday the couple were discharged from UCSF “in good health,” but did not indicate whether they had been cleared to resume their normal lives.
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Santa Clara County coronavirus victims still isolated

I'm not sure they truly know when you're not infectious anymore.
I did see the below link about the flu doubling in their county when hunting information. I hope people aren't being misdiagnosed.

Flu cases double in San Benito County
 
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davethevol said:
My fear is that it just goes dormant. There is info that would seem to indicate that. Since this is so new, we don’t know if it just hides until it decides to cause havoc again.
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Nothing can be certain yet, but that is not a feature of typical coronaviruses, or any other common respiratory viruses. Herpesviruses and (to an extent) HIV are the most capable of immune evasion.
 
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