The Next Trump Crisis

[Mick]

Why would Trump , the most egotistical person you’ve ever seen , worry about getting help beating Joe Biden ? Now if you wanted to make the case that it would embarrass a former Obama VP and further try to erode Obamas time in office .. I’ll agree . I personally don’t think Trump likes Biden either .

That question answered itself and for the rest, you did exactly like I predicted, didn't answer my question honestly about Trumps behavior.

 

[0nelilreb]

That question answered itself and for the rest you did exactly like I predicted.

First you never start off asking someone a question by prefacing it with “ you are ignorant if you believe __” I answered your question , just not the way you wanted me to . I assumed , you being as intelligent as you claimed to be , that you could extrapolate the answer from my reply .

 

[happy-go_vol]

There will never be a more horrendous candidate than Trump to win a party's nomination.

Hillary, bernie, obama, pete, any dem. Sorry dude, as always you're wrong.

 

[happy-go_vol]

The leftists either won't acknowledge, or are too stupid to know that they have caused a lot of division in the country by referring to us as deplorables, uneducated, rubes, low information voters, etc. It is coming back to bite them in the ass.

The left purposefully wants division in this country. You continue to agitate until Americans stop fighting. Obama was the poster child for agitation. He hated this country and was determined to fundamentaly change this country; which he did. Sadly the sheep (here and throughout America) dont even realize they've been duped.

 

[Mick]

First you never start off asking someone a question by prefacing it with “ you are ignorant if you believe __” I answered your question , just not the way you wanted me to . I assumed , you being as intelligent as you claimed to be , that you could extrapolate the answer from my reply .

He did what he has been accused of both time? Yes or No to my question. You proposed a question and proceeded to answer your own question, not the one I proposed. Your answer was something along the line of what Trump did was OK and just embarrassing for Biden and Obama. Did I extrapolate that correctly?

 

[luthervol]

Oh I’ll bet you fawn all over each other on how smart you each are!

How is lil Luther working out in the civil engineering gig? How long till she gets her PE?

I wouldn't say we fawn over it.
lil Luther 1 is doing great. Ask again in a couple of weeks. She's about to have her 1st annual review. She doesn't seem to view the PE route as most beneficial for her.
lil Luther 2 is doing great. Graduating from Tech in May.
lil Luther 3 is doing great. Finishing wrestling season, starting track, all with his eye on his senior year of football.

 

[happy-go_vol]

That's the whole contention. Voters did not pick the best candidate (in the rep. primaries or general election)
That's like saying you give your kid the choice between McDonald's and the best steak house in town.
Your kid picking McDonald's in no way proves McDonald's is a better restaurant, it only proves that your kid's taste in restaurants isn't very developed.
The whole mystery continues to be, how are people being manipulated into believing that the worst candidate is the best. Anomaly.

Trump is trying to do what he promised, would any other gop candidate attempt what he did. None of them would have. Obama did much to destroy what's left of this country.

I wouldn't worry luthergaytor. A dem will eventually be pres again and he'll finish what your boy started. Just be patient, your country will soon be a marxist utopia.

 

[tim]

“I’ve got a phone and I have a pen”. But yeah Trump’s the dictator.

 

[luthervol]

Trump is trying to do what he promised, would any other gop candidate attempt what he did. None of them would have. Obama did much to destroy what's left of this country.

I wouldn't worry luthergaytor. A dem will eventually be pres again and he'll finish what your boy started. Just be patient, your country will soon be a marxist utopia.

True, it's only the time line that's in question.

It was inevitable the day that our country was founded that slavery would one day be illegal. The only questions were how long it would take and the amount of human suffering that would occur in the process.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I wouldn't say we fawn over it.
lil Luther 1 is doing great. Ask again in a couple of weeks. She's about to have her 1st annual review. She doesn't seem to view the PE route as most beneficial for her.
lil Luther 2 is doing great. Graduating from Tech in May.
lil Luther 3 is doing great. Finishing wrestling season, starting track, all with his eye on his senior year of football.

Oh no please tell lil Luther 1 to get that PE it is SO CRUCIAL in her field!! I can’t stress that enough! Please get her to check other sources. Without it she will always have to lean on another PE’s stamp and it will hinder advancement to the highest positions.

In Civil Engineering it’s absolutely huge to get the stamp due to the accessibility and providing services to the general public as the law requires. I think it’s pretty much a 100% expectation on any senior consulting gigs. In my field where I spend my whole time within industry and never working even in the periphery with the general public it isn’t a big deal. So I never did it.

Good to hear lil Luther’s 2 and 3 are progressing among nicely also

 

[0nelilreb]

He did what he has been accused of both time? Yes or No to my question. You proposed a question and proceeded to answer your own question, not the one I proposed. Your answer was something along the line of what Trump did was OK and just embarrassing for Biden and Obama. Did I extrapolate that correctly?

No , I didn’t say it was ok . I said he’s too egotistical to ask for help beating Biden . I don’t believe he asked Ukraine for help beating Biden , I do believe he saw an opportunity to embarrass Biden because what he did was bad optics threatening Ukraine with withholding funds to get what Obama wanted from them and while Bidens son “ worked “ for a questionable company there .

 

[happy-go_vol]

True, it's only the time line that's in question.

It was inevitable the day that our country was founded that slavery would one day be illegal. The only questions were how long it would take and the amount of human suffering that would occur in the process.

Just like abortion has killed million upon millions of babies and caused alot of pain for those getting abortions. Not sure if it will inevitably be illegal like slavery because You and your ilk support it.

You guys supported slavery, you continue to support it though in a different form.

 

[MontyPython]

"...If Trump commits a crime (as he allegedly has, repeatedly), he cannot be indicted under guidelines from the Justice Department. And if he yet again abuses his power with corrupt intent, it’s up to his lackeys in the Senate to hold him accountable with an impeachment trial — and they just spectacularly failed to do so despite him committing the most egregious abuse of power in recent American history.

Perhaps most striking was the moment in which one of Trump’s defense lawyers, Alan Dershowitz, argued that “if a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment.” That logic — that if the leader takes an action to win with corrupt intent but believes that his victory is ultimately good for the country, then it’s fine — is the logic of authoritarian despots. It is a logic that is poisonous to democracy. (Dershowitz has since tried to back away from his own words, but there’s no changing the fact he appears to have captured precisely the philosophy that currently informs thinking among Senate Republicans.)

All of this would be quite worrying indeed if the current president were someone who mimicked the behavior of autocrats. We would be right to panic if the man in the White House was someone who, for example, attacked the media with Stalinist rhetoric, scapegoated minority groups, called for the jailing of his political rivals, politicized the rule of law, hired cronies and family members for top jobs, called to ban an entire religion from entering the country, directly profited from his office, and had invited foreign adversaries to help him stay in power.

Okay, maybe it’s time to break the glass."

-WaPo

 

[happy-go_vol]

No , I didn’t say it was ok . I said he’s too egotistical to ask for help beating Biden . I don’t believe he asked Ukraine for help beating Biden , I do believe he saw an opportunity to embarrass Biden because what he did was bad optics threatening Ukraine with withholding funds to get what Obama wanted from them and while Bidens son “ worked “ for a questionable company there .

He knew that biden got a job based on political connections. Why would anyone want to defend biden.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

No , that’s just following the same path that got you to this point . Try another path , going down the same one every time isn’t working .

Shhhh. Don't help him

 

[luthervol]

Oh no please tell lil Luther 1 to get that PE it is SO CRUCIAL in her field!! I can’t stress that enough! Please get her to check other sources. Without it she will always have to lean on another PE’s stamp and it will hinder advancement to the highest positions.

In Civil Engineering it’s absolutely huge to get the stamp due to the accessibility and providing services to the general public as the law requires. I think it’s pretty much a 100% expectation on any senior consulting gigs. In my field where I spend my whole time within industry and never working even in the periphery with the general public it isn’t a big deal. So I never did it.

Good to hear lil Luther’s 2 and 3 are progressing among nicely also

I don't give lil Luther 1 advice unless she asks. She's blazed her path on her own. She is in constant contact with engineers from various fields and career levels, so I'm sure she is getting all the advice she needs. I'm sure she has a plan.

 

[0nelilreb]

True, it's only the time line that's in question.

It was inevitable the day that our country was founded that slavery would one day be illegal. The only questions were how long it would take and the amount of human suffering that would occur in the process.

All counties inevitably rise up then fall . Trumps election(s) will only delay the inevitable march to the far left and eventual collapse of the country . I think we agree on something here . I know you are Trump proof as you say , but the irony here is you aren’t as Socialist prof as you are Trump proof .. none of us are . Lol

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I want him to do well. We all need him to do well. I am worried about his mental state.

Oh good lord. Seriously? Step back from the ledge. He's doing just fine

 

[NorthDallas40]

I don't give lil Luther 1 advice unless she asks. She's blazed her path on her own. She is in constant contact with engineers from various fields and career levels, so I'm sure she is getting all the advice she needs. I'm sure she has a plan.

Ok fair enough and as long as she’s got some senior CE’s she trusts for advice she should have it covered. I can’t imagine a CE path that doesn’t stress the PE license but it isn’t my field

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

There will never be a more horrendous candidate than Trump to win a party's nomination.

I can come up with about 5 without trying to hard.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

And a frigging full blown socialist!

God bless you

 

[Mick]

No , I didn’t say it was ok . I said he’s too egotistical to ask for help beating Biden . I don’t believe he asked Ukraine for help beating Biden , I do believe he saw an opportunity to embarrass Biden because what he did was bad optics threatening Ukraine with withholding funds to get what Obama wanted from them and while Bidens son “ worked “ for a questionable company there .

That answer will do. You don't believe Trump ask Ukraine to announce investigations into the Biden's and you don't believe he leveraged aide to accomplish that because his ego wouldn't let him. The cult is strong with you.

 

[utvolpj]

All counties inevitably rise up then fall . Trumps election(s) will only delay the inevitable march to the far left and eventual collapse of the country . I think we agree on something here . I know you are Trump proof as you say , but the irony here is you aren’t as Socialist prof as you are Trump proof .. none of us are . Lol

I would think insurmountable debt is one thing that will bring a downfall. Trump definitely isn't delaying that

 

[0nelilreb]

That answer will do. You don't believe Trump ask Ukraine to announce investigations into the Biden's and you don't believe he leveraged aide to accomplish that because his ego wouldn't let him. The cult is strong with you.

Logic is strong with me . He doesn’t fear Biden ( ego again ) Nobody does really . Bernie for sure doesn’t . He is in a position of power to be able to dig up some dirt on him and his son though , just like Joe was in a position of power to strong arm them when he was in office to get what they wanted . All it amounts to is the Big bull on the farm pushing the smaller bulls around to get what he wants . The only difference between the bulls .. one has a D branded on his azz the other has an R on his azz .

 

[DC_Vol]

The impeachment process has achieved something. It has removed deniability from the Republicans. They were enablers; now they are accomplices. They are all Carmela Soprano in the classic scene with the psychiatrist who speaks the truth about her criminal husband: “One thing you can never say: that you haven’t been told.” The Republican Party as an institution has utterly merged itself into the Trump cover-up machine, and there is no escape for any of them—not the concerned Susan Collins nor the troubled Marco Rubio nor the thoughtful Ben Sasse.

When Senate Republicans make complicit fools of themselves Wednesday and vote to acquit their King of his obvious corruption, we move on to the next crisis.

(1) Bolton's Book.

Bolton writes that Trump first tried to put the squeeze on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in early May 2019—and White House Counsel Pat Cipollone was a witness in the very room where the plot was hatched. Even as Cipollone argued on the president’s behalf that witnesses were unnecessary, he was plausibly alleged to be a crucial fact witness by another fact witness. This double-dealing will surely trigger a new battle to compel testimony from Bolton and Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney—and perhaps to discipline Cipollone for unethical legal conduct. During impeachment proceedings, Bolton and Mulvaney defied congressional subpoenas; now there’s yet more urgency to determine what the president’s team of lawyers actually knew at the time they were making Trump’s case before the Senate.

Then will come the crisis of the administration’s battle to suppress Bolton’s book—and all the other narratives that current insiders may want to tell in order to clear their own besmirched reputations. Does Mulvaney enjoy being the designated sucker in chief of this story? Maybe not.

(2) Trump's Taxes / Hush Money

Even worse for Trump and the Republicans, Ukraine is by no means the only dirty secret being covered up. There are others, and perhaps even more damaging. Sometime before the end of June, the U.S. Supreme Court will rule in consolidated cases about whether Trump can continue to keep secret his tax returns and other business documents.

One case began with a New York State grand-jury subpoena of Trump business documents, to probe whether he broke laws when he allegedly paid hush money to two women during the 2016 campaign. The others involve subpoenas by House committees—Oversight, Financial Services, and Intelligence—of tax returns and banking records.

The multiple subpoenas raise different legal issues, especially because the Financial Services and Intelligence subpoenas were served not on Trump or his organization, but on his accounting firm and two of his banks. If the Supreme Court rules in favor of some or all of the subpoenas, damaging financial information will tumble into the public domain right as the election season begins in earnest. Worse, the New York State case could conceivably lead to an indictment of Trump. The current practice is that a serving president cannot be prosecuted for a federal crime. What about a state crime? Vice President Aaron Burr was (unsuccessfully) prosecuted for the killing of Alexander Hamilton in 1804. Beyond that, there are not many relevant precedents. Whatever the ultimate constitutional answer to the question, it’s not a good look for a serving president to end a campaign arguing that he should be immune to state as well as federal criminal law. It raises questions like “Maybe we should have a president who has not committed so many crimes?”

Trump can of course hope that he wins on every point in the Supreme Court. Yet such a victory will not protect him unless it is overwhelming. If Trump wins 5–4, with the newest justice, Brett Kavanaugh, casting a vote for secrecy, this outcome will not command much legitimacy among Trump’s political opponents. Instead, they will charge that a justice whose guilty secret was protected by the president is now protecting the president’s own guilty secrets: yet another quid pro quo in an administration notorious for them.

The Next Trump Crisis

I’ve been telling you buffoons you’re in for a big let down. It’s almost here.

Yes, I’m aware you’ll be searching for the next manufactured crisis. But the amount of credibility that has been pissed away on these antics is immeasurable.