Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

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Orangeburst said:
Ok I wanna know. WTH is that on post 703?
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I regret going back to find this.

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Negative-pressure precautions would be unusual for Coronaviruses. Like the flu or common colds, they spread by direct contact with respiratory secretions or via the "large-droplet" airborne route. They don't just float around in the air/circulation.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Negative-pressure precautions would be unusual for Coronaviruses. Like the flu or common colds, they spread by direct contact with respiratory secretions or via the "large-droplet" airborne route. They don't just float around in the air/circulation.
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Negative pressure rooms seem to be the worldwide normal response for this virus.
It appears that the new hospitals going up in China for virus response are full on negative pressure facilities as I’ve seen a few articles referencing that.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Negative-pressure precautions would be unusual for Coronaviruses. Like the flu or common colds, they spread by direct contact with respiratory secretions or via the "large-droplet" airborne route. They don't just float around in the air/circulation.
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Never the less, that's the cdc recommendation. I did find it strange.
 
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DynaLo said:
I’ve wondered how many negative pressure rooms our hospitals have available and what about small local hospitals, would they have those rooms?

Edit: might have found an answer to this question that isn’t very encouraging if there’s a large outbreak in the US.

Official counts of negative pressure rooms do not exist. Experts estimate that approximately 4000-5000 negative pressure rooms exist in hospitals throughout the United States.

Negative Pressure Rooms | Encyclopedia.com
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Most level 1 trauma hospitals have between 5-25 negative pressure rooms. The smaller ones may have 5-10. Or 1-2 for the rural hospitals
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Negative-pressure precautions would be unusual for Coronaviruses. Like the flu or common colds, they spread by direct contact with respiratory secretions or via the "large-droplet" airborne route. They don't just float around in the air/circulation.
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What if this is as some people fear and a bio-weapon that got out? Maybe it has characteristics that make it easier to transmit by design.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
So all rooms are basically positive pressure that feed into a larger system that supplies that floor?
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You want positive to push bad air out from the individual rooms. Ideally this keeps air moving, and keeps out any environmental stuff. (Smog, gases, radon, pollen) but if you have an airborne disease the positive would circulate it to everyone. So negative is the flip. It keeps air contained. Requires special and separate systems. Probably has a number of special filters and probably exhausts in a different location than the rest. (After it's been filtered)

Most buildings are going to be positively pressured. With noticable exceptions of high rises. You have to do it to avoid sick building syndrome. Which isnt a thing here in the US anymore but back in the early days was a big issue in big cities.
 
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Based on what’s *reported* it seems as though the rate of infection is decelerating. Of course that’s a big caveat. Don’t know how accurate those numbers are
 
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davethevol said:
What if this is as some people fear and a bio-weapon that got out? Maybe it has characteristics that make it easier to transmit by design.
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It seems more likely that instead of a full blown bio-weapon it could be early testing and experimentation gone bad. Some of its characteristics do seem more human engineered than nature made. I’m not the type to jump on a conspiracy train but there is info out there that makes you pause and go hmmmm, wtf.

Genome testing shows a very high % correspondence to a coronavirus carried by Asian horseshoe bats, but at this time of year those bats are known to be in hibernation. To me, that would seem to somewhat lessen the chances of bat to human direct transmissions or indirect from bat to unknown critter to human. Now add in that one of the top, if not the top virologist in China, is the worldwide expert in bat coronavirus research, her main lab is a level 4 in Wuhan and she’s done extensive research into studying and mutating coronaviruses carried by horseshoe bats. Those things and the way the CCP tried to cover it up, until it got way way out of hand, certainly have me more than curious about the actual origins of this virus.
 
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DynaLo said:
It seems more likely that instead of a full blown bio-weapon it could be early testing and experimentation gone bad. Some of its characteristics do seem more human engineered than nature made. I’m not the type to jump on a conspiracy train but there is info out there that makes you pause and go hmmmm, wtf.

Genome testing shows a very high % correspondence to a coronavirus carried by Asian horseshoe bats, but at this time of year those bats are known to be in hibernation. To me, that would seem to somewhat lessen the chances of bat to human direct transmissions or indirect from bat to unknown critter to human. Now add in that one of the top, if not the top virologist in China, is the worldwide expert in bat coronavirus research, her main lab is a level 4 in Wuhan and she’s done extensive research into studying and mutating coronaviruses carried by horseshoe bats. Those things and the way the CCP tried to cover it up, until it got way way out of hand, certainly have me more than curious about the actual origins of this virus.
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The bad thing is... It's not just China. Weaponizing viruses is a world wide elephant in the room.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
The bad thing is... It's not just China. Weaponizing viruses is a world wide elephant in the room.
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Absolutely. Even our own government, including the DOD WMD Section, has paid China’s bat lady to provide research. The Israelis said a few years ago along with the US that the bio lab in Wuhan was likely to have a virus escape.

I’m not sure if the same training is still ongoing, but years ago the members of CST/WMD teams were taught hands on in their own unit buildings how to make chemical weapon agents. Now if that’s not just damn comforting I don’t know what is🥴
 
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golfballs said:
Based on what’s *reported* it seems as though the rate of infection is decelerating. Of course that’s a big caveat. Don’t know how accurate those numbers are
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Personal opinion, the released CCP numbers are bs and totally skewed off the front end. The first 20 some odd deaths occurred within 7-14 of diagnosis/hospitalization so I’m left wondering if the current death stats should be corresponding to the number of infected cases from around a week ago. Sure makes you wonder if the mortality rate per reported infected cases in China is actually higher than what is being presented.
 
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DynaLo said:
Personal opinion, the released CCP numbers are bs and totally skewed off the front end. The first 20 some odd deaths occurred within 7-14 of diagnosis/hospitalization so I’m left wondering if the current death stats should be corresponding to the number of infected cases from around a week ago. Sure makes you wonder if the mortality rate per reported infected cases in China is actually higher than what is being presented.
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