White House announces Medicaid overhaul

[AshG]

Trump administration announces Medicaid program funding overhaul

But no one should worry because the economy is booming and all those juicy new jobs include quality health coverage. Right?

 

[hog88]

Trump administration announces Medicaid program funding overhaul

But no one should worry because the economy is booming and all those juicy new jobs include quality health coverage. Right?

Firstly this is about Medicaid and not Medicare.

Secondly YAY!!

 

[AshG]

My kids are on Medicaid. It's the only way we can afford the specialized care our daughter needs.

I wish there were another way to clean things up.

 

[PeaceCorpsVol]

Next will be social security

 

[0nelilreb]

It’s an interesting concept how we approach these safety net entitlements . Everyone wants to point at the deficit, nobody wants to cut the programs . Round and round we go .

 

[AshG]

We could always raise revenue. If the economy is so booming, increasing revenue shouldn't be an issue.

 

[C-south]

We could always raise revenue. If the economy is so booming, increasing revenue shouldn't be an issue.

Always quick to spend someone else’s money

 

[AshG]

Always quick to spend someone else’s money

Nope. Put 0% of my taxes towards corporate subsidies, lower the amount paid towards defense, and transfer the difference to safety net programs.

 

[C-south]

Nope. Put 0% of my taxes towards corporate subsidies, lower the amount paid towards defense, and transfer the difference to safety net programs.

If I reduce the first two the last one definitely will be as well.

 

[McDad]

My kids are on Medicaid. It's the only way we can afford the specialized care our daughter needs.

I wish there were another way to clean things up.

Your kids are unaffected. Did you read the article?

named "Healthy Adult Opportunity," would give states the option to receive their federal Medicaid funding as a block grant, or a lump sum, to cover nondisabled adults, while providing states more autonomy to manage their programs.

 

[AshG]

Your kids are unaffected. Did you read the article?

named "Healthy Adult Opportunity," would give states the option to receive their federal Medicaid funding as a block grant, or a lump sum, to cover nondisabled adults, while providing states more autonomy to manage their programs.

It starts there. Cuts continue to happen as the block grant payments get lower over time.

Cuts to services for adults also directly affect children as well through the increased stresses and difficulties of paying for medical care. This gorgeous big booming economy also doesn't include much in the way of sick leave or quality insurance for the newly multi-employed, which means an adult getting sick costs money in child care and lost wages on top of the medical bills - money that could be spent on educational opportunities, clothes, and even food.

What's in Trump's 2020 Budget for Family and Youth Services

Child Welfare Block Grant: The administration has again included a proposed block grant option for states as an alternative to Title IV-E, the entitlement through which most child welfare funding is passed from the federal government to states. Were the plan to get congressional approval, states could use IV-E money for any of the purposes and services authorized under IV-E and IV-B, which is a block grant states can use for the prevention of abuse and neglect, and family preservation.

This option would run alongside the Family First Prevention Services Act, which was passed in 2018 and takes effect in October. That law opens up more flexibility on the front end of IV-E to permit spending on some efforts to keep families together, but also limits federal funding for group homes and other congregate care placements.

Head Start haircut: A lot of youth spending lines took hits during the budget battles and sequestration that preceded Trump. But one that was protected, and even saw increases supported by Republican appropriators, was Head Start, the national program that provides early childhood care to many low-income families. Recent research out of the Michigan State School of Social Work suggests that Head Start participation may help prevent removals to foster care among families known to the child welfare system.

Trump would reverse the upward trend in Head Start funding, cutting it by $359 million.

Service Learning canceled: As has been the case in previous Trump budgets, the Corporation for National and Community Service would be all but shuttered. The AmeriCorps program – which supplies much-needed, low-cost workers to many nonprofits – would lose all but $2 million of its $423 million budget. The Foster Grandparent program ($111 million), which funds service programs that put the elderly together with kids, would go away entirely.

 

[C-south]

A booming economy should be pulling people off welfare but those on it just want more. Typical.

 

[McDad]

It starts there. Cuts continue to happen as the block grant payments get lower over time.

Cuts to services for adults also directly affect children as well through the increased stresses and difficulties of paying for medical care. This gorgeous big booming economy also doesn't include much in the way of sick leave or quality insurance for the newly multi-employed, which means an adult getting sick costs money in child care and lost wages on top of the medical bills - money that could be spent on educational opportunities, clothes, and even food.

What's in Trump's 2020 Budget for Family and Youth Services

Child Welfare Block Grant: The administration has again included a proposed block grant option for states as an alternative to Title IV-E, the entitlement through which most child welfare funding is passed from the federal government to states. Were the plan to get congressional approval, states could use IV-E money for any of the purposes and services authorized under IV-E and IV-B, which is a block grant states can use for the prevention of abuse and neglect, and family preservation.

This option would run alongside the Family First Prevention Services Act, which was passed in 2018 and takes effect in October. That law opens up more flexibility on the front end of IV-E to permit spending on some efforts to keep families together, but also limits federal funding for group homes and other congregate care placements.

Head Start haircut: A lot of youth spending lines took hits during the budget battles and sequestration that preceded Trump. But one that was protected, and even saw increases supported by Republican appropriators, was Head Start, the national program that provides early childhood care to many low-income families. Recent research out of the Michigan State School of Social Work suggests that Head Start participation may help prevent removals to foster care among families known to the child welfare system.

Trump would reverse the upward trend in Head Start funding, cutting it by $359 million.

Service Learning canceled: As has been the case in previous Trump budgets, the Corporation for National and Community Service would be all but shuttered. The AmeriCorps program – which supplies much-needed, low-cost workers to many nonprofits – would lose all but $2 million of its $423 million budget. The Foster Grandparent program ($111 million), which funds service programs that put the elderly together with kids, would go away entirely.

It's scary when it affects the ones we love. I would encourage you by saying this proposal has a long way to go.
Government can remove funding at anytime. The people in your community will help cover if the Fed defunds. Unfortunately we spend more than we have. Arithmetic dictates eventually it will end.

 

[AshG]

A booming economy should be pulling people off welfare but those on it just want more. Typical.

I am doing what I can to not respond poorly to your comments. God bless and keep you.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Next will be social security

The Ponzi scheme will come crashing down. Probably not until after I retire so I won't see a nickel of all I have paid into it. Either that or I will be means tested out of the benefits... that I paid for.

 

[AshG]

The Ponzi scheme will come crashing down. Probably not until after I retire so I won't see a nickel of all I have paid into it. Either that or I will be means tested out of the benefits... that I paid for.

Wall Street thanks us for propping them up.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

We could always raise revenue. If the economy is so booming, increasing revenue shouldn't be an issue.

What is it with you leftists that you think my money belongs to you?

And in case you haven't noticed, tax revenues are up even with tax cuts.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Wall Street thanks us for propping them up.

Wall Street is propping ME up, and I thank president Trump for that.

 

[AshG]

What is it with you leftists that you think my money belongs to you?

And in case you haven't noticed, tax revenues are up even with tax cuts.

Nice assumption. Wrong, but nice. Shove your label maker back in the box while you're at it.

If all boats are rising, then we'll have the revenue to keep taking care of those who can't take care of themselves.

 

[0nelilreb]

Nice assumption. Wrong, but nice. Shove your label maker back in the box while you're at it.

If all boats are rising, then we'll have the revenue to keep taking care of those who can't take care of themselves.

What happens when the stopper gets pulled and all the boats are sitting on the ground because the water is gone ? For every Yin there is a Yang. Yang will show up eventually .

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Nice assumption. Wrong, but nice. Shove your label maker back in the box while you're at it.

If all boats are rising, then we'll have the revenue to keep taking care of those who can't take care of themselves.

I'm curious. How do you determine who 'can't take care of themselves'? I am all for helping those people. But those that WON'T take care of themselves should be allowed to starve in the street.

 

[AshG]

What happens when the stopper gets pulled and all the boats are sitting on the ground because the water is gone ? For every Yin there is a Yang. Yang will show up eventually .

And that's a very important discussion to have. The problem is that the artificial 'sides' of the discussion are both so dead-set on their specific way being right that we can't put our heads together and figure out a mutually beneficial way moving forward.

Much to the disbelief of some people here, I hate that my children rely on Medicaid and I want them to be off of it ASAP. But the moment we cross that economic red line, my family will have $10,000+ more in expenses a year on top of the medical mess I've created for us. We don't have cable. We have the cheapest wireless plan we can live with. Neither of my kids have a cell phone and won't for the foreseeable future. There's one TV in the house, and it's 10 years old.

And the message that I wish I could leave them with is that I don't want their money, We're finally in a position where we're paying down the $9k in medical debt from when we lived in Mississippi, plus credit card debt we accrued trying to make sure the kids had food during the lean years. Then we can start saving and investing. But the moment I mention the kids are on Medicaid, something we're ashamed of, I'm a leftist who wants money I didn't earn. No. I just want the climb back up to be a little less steep, and my kids to not suffer because I'm too ill to work a second job.

I harbor no ill will towards anyone here. Not at all. Just frustration at times.

 

[C-south]

Nice assumption. Wrong, but nice. Shove your label maker back in the box while you're at it.

If all boats are rising, then we'll have the revenue to keep taking care of those who can't take care of themselves.

Welfare should be temporary and the absolute barest of essentials needed to survive. Nobody on welfare should thrive because people that work do.

 

[1972 Grad]

The Ponzi scheme will come crashing down. Probably not until after I retire so I won't see a nickel of all I have paid into it. Either that or I will be means tested out of the benefits... that I paid for.

One of my main reasons for taking SS at 62 is because I worried about its longevity more than my own.

 

[0nelilreb]

And that's a very important discussion to have. The problem is that the artificial 'sides' of the discussion are both so dead-set on their specific way being right that we can't put our heads together and figure out a mutually beneficial way moving forward.

Much to the disbelief of some people here, I hate that my children rely on Medicaid and I want them to be off of it ASAP. But the moment we cross that economic red line, my family will have $10,000+ more in expenses a year on top of the medical mess I've created for us. We don't have cable. We have the cheapest wireless plan we can live with. Neither of my kids have a cell phone and won't for the foreseeable future. There's one TV in the house, and it's 10 years old.

And the message that I wish I could leave them with is that I don't want their money, We're finally in a position where we're paying down the $9k in medical debt from when we lived in Mississippi, plus credit card debt we accrued trying to make sure the kids had food during the lean years. Then we can start saving and investing. But the moment I mention the kids are on Medicaid, something we're ashamed of, I'm a leftist who wants money I didn't earn. No. I just want the climb back up to be a little less steep, and my kids to not suffer because I'm too ill to work a second job.

I harbor no ill will towards anyone here. Not at all. Just frustration at times.

This is where I am a self confessed hypocrite and the one place where I can be dog piled on because of it . I do believe in a hybrid form of capitalism / safety nets for our country . My internal struggle is , where do I draw the line . I believe people / communities / churches / government should take care of others less fortunate than themselves and need help to survive . This is where I will also add that those less fortunate , should be less willing to accept the help until it’s absolutely necessary. The young the old , the sick and our veterans, that fight in our stead for us to live the life we live . Like I said before this makes me a hypocrite, but it’s where I choose to be one at . The hard part is finding a balance that works , and not just another out of control government program(s) that’s spending itself into oblivion.