The "It's 2 am and we talkin renovation" thread

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In our master bath in GA, I went with Italian tile colors in big box choices and prices, and added the touch with the paint job. School bus yellow and cream. double pan with split roller. roll walls randomly till covered. dab the trim lines instead of strokes. gives it that putty knife bladed look, without the texture. And if I over blended the rolling, I could turn either color on edge and just put a swipe across the wall. The method really muted down the strong yellow and gave it a great Italian villa look. And super economical on paint. Well over 200 sf of walls and only used about 1 inch out of each gallon of color.
 
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GVF said:
I would have loved to started in the kitchen. Made a farmhouse kitchen out of it. Wife wanted bath done first. I could see about 1/3 of the cast iron tub from the cellar beneath. She won.

Some great looks out there that are awesome in the baths. I'm sure you've looked at a lot of design ideas. If my bath had been a little larger (we considered enlarging), I'd have gone with the fully tiled wall/floor wet area and just a drain in the floor itself with the shower units on one wall and a soaker tub on the other. either glass wall separating form vanity area, or cased in pass thru to wet area. I love that look.
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Actually, not going to get overly fancy with the tile. I am more concerned that it be structurally sound. Kitchen counters will be easy peasy. Hard part to that will be switching the food disposal unit from left to right side. Fortunately, the wiring is already to the right of the sink so it's just a different hookup to the plumbing.
 
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VolNExile said:
Speaking of big box tile, we used this in the kitchen and laundry ell. Tile is from Spain, supposedly hand formed, irregular edges and wavy surface (shows up better on the green tile pic). I love it on sunny mornings, which today isn’t. It gives an underwater feel. I like thin grout lines, so it worked out well. Catalina from Home Depot. The green tile was packed well, but the white was a shambles.

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We did the same on our backsplash in our house in KNoxville. By the time my wife got done we were looking at $40 per sf. I about chit my shorts when she came home with the tile. It was the hand cast stuff and a bunch of edging to go with it. Put in some inset diamonds too. God that was a labor of love. We sold the house and the bish that bought it ripped the entire kitchen out including the tile splash. What a fugging maroon.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Actually, not going to get overly fancy with the tile. I am more concerned that it be structurally sound. Kitchen counters will be easy peasy. Hard part to that will be switching the food disposal unit from left to right side. Fortunately, the wiring is already to the right of the sink so it's just a different hookup to the plumbing.
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Are you going to tile the counters. I actually like that with the right tile. I got some good deals at that warehouse, and tiled our counters with a 6x12 killer floor tile. and worked out a pattern instead of stacked or brick. My pattern would yield a square IIRC about every 6 tiles. Kind of a right angle herringbone so to speak. Wood trim turn downs. 3/4 plywood and 1/4 backer board underlayment. Very sturdy. very cheap. Tiled counters in the wrong tile is an eye sore.
 
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GVF said:
Are you going to tile the counters. I actually like that with the right tile. I got some good deals at that warehouse, and tiled our counters with a 6x12 killer floor tile. and worked out a pattern instead of stacked or brick. My pattern would yield a square IIRC about every 6 tiles. Kind of a right angle herringbone so to speak. Wood trim turn downs. 3/4 plywood and 1/4 backer board underlayment. Very sturdy. very cheap. Tiled counters in the wrong tile is an eye sore.
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No we have the cultured marble currently. That will be the last thing we replace if we even do that. This is a small duplex condo in a retirement community. If all goes to plan, we will be there about 6 - 7 more years. Want to get what I have in it out of it. I think I can do the marble and the tile shower and stay below the current price point that they are selling for.
 
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VolNExile said:
Speaking of big box tile, we used this in the kitchen and laundry ell. Tile is from Spain, supposedly hand formed, irregular edges and wavy surface (shows up better on the green tile pic). I love it on sunny mornings, which today isn’t. It gives an underwater feel. I like thin grout lines, so it worked out well. Catalina from Home Depot. The green tile was packed well, but the white was a shambles.

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That is a great looking kitchen. I forget what the tile is called, but it is a subway variation. Your right. Not cheap. Another good look on that is also Italian hand made I think. But, in smaller 3x6 or so. flat finish, but it is the white tiles currently part of the Starbucks deco. that's a similar theme you got that i'd want in our kitchen when we get around to it.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
We did the same on our backsplash in our house in KNoxville. By the time my wife got done we were looking at $40 per sf. I about chit my shorts when she came home with the tile. It was the hand cast stuff and a bunch of edging to go with it. Put in some inset diamonds too. God that was a labor of love. We sold the house and the bish that bought it ripped the entire kitchen out including the tile splash. What a fugging maroon.
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Yeah this stuff was on sale for $6.48/sq ft (currently $9.99), and I pounced. The only thing I splurged on was the marble in the bathroom, which totaled $3000 and change. It’s not like you can get too crazy in a 7’ x 7 1/2’ space. 🤪

And after a three week horrified stay on Houzz dot com, I realized that wealthy women mark their territories by unnecessary and over the top remodeling. We’re hoping to live our last 20 years here, and then the buyer can do whatever they like.
 
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VolNExile said:
Yeah this stuff was on sale for $6.48/sq ft (currently $9.99), and I pounced. The only thing I splurged on was the marble in the bathroom, which totaled $3000 and change. It’s not like you can get too crazy in a 7’ x 7 1/2’ space. 🤪
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I gave her a $10 per sf limit (1999 $$) and she came back with $40. Still trying to figure out why my instructions weren't followed!!! :D:p:D
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
No we have the cultured marble currently. That will be the last thing we replace if we even do that. This is a small duplex condo in a retirement community. If all goes to plan, we will be there about 6 - 7 more years. Want to get what I have in it out of it. I think I can do the marble and the tile shower and stay below the current price point that they are selling for.
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Counters and tops can get outrageous. You have to be careful. I do this in a food service setting. Estimating, project management. We build out eating spaces and concepts in universities, hospitals, etc. We make all casework/counters in house. We make corian and laminated tops, but sub out the stone tops. not sure what's in your plans, but you can keep the counter, put new fronts/doors and save money there, and either keep or replace the tops within budget at that point. We do a lot of recladding with new tops instead of full counter replacements to keep clients in budget. Most of the time the counters are solid and just need new doors and new laminate which can be done on site. the new doors we will make in house and laminate the cabinet faces on site. Of course, most of us here have done some remodeling on our own, and know the value an inexpensive backsplash can add aesthetically.
 
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VolNExile said:
Yeah this stuff was on sale for $6.48/sq ft (currently $9.99), and I pounced. The only thing I splurged on was the marble in the bathroom, which totaled $3000 and change. It’s not like you can get too crazy in a 7’ x 7 1/2’ space. 🤪

And after a three week horrified stay on Houzz dot com, I realized that wealthy women mark their territories by unnecessary and over the top remodeling. We’re hoping to live our last 20 years here, and then the buyer can do whatever they like.
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My bath is 5x8 shell. We spent 800 on the vanity. Over a 1/3 of the total cost. gonna finish it out around 2400. I could have done cheaper if it weren't for the must have vanity and the added structural work from leaks over the years. My initial estimated budget was around 1400, but then I busted out the cast iron tub, and saw things I didn't see from the cellar. two pair of panties and about 50 walnuts. Don't ask about hte panties, I have no clue how they got there. Big effing perv rat I guess.
 
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GVF said:
That is a great looking kitchen. I forget what the tile is called, but it is a subway variation. Your right. Not cheap. Another good look on that is also Italian hand made I think. But, in smaller 3x6 or so. flat finish, but it is the white tiles currently part of the Starbucks deco. that's a similar theme you got that i'd want in our kitchen when we get around to it.
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Thank you, I’m glad it looks more expensive than it is! And we just called it 3x12 subway. Another nice thing is that at only four tiles/ sq ft, it goes up fast. And the narrow grout lines make it easy to clean when the sauce gets to splashing. Which ours seems to do.
 
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GVF said:
Counters and tops can get outrageous. You have to be careful. I do this in a food service setting. Estimating, project management. We build out eating spaces and concepts in universities, hospitals, etc. We make all casework/counters in house. We make corian and laminated tops, but sub out the stone tops. not sure what's in your plans, but you can keep the counter, put new fronts/doors and save money there, and either keep or replace the tops within budget at that point. We do a lot of recladding with new tops instead of full counter replacements to keep clients in budget. Most of the time the counters are solid and just need new doors and new laminate which can be done on site. the new doors we will make in house and laminate the cabinet faces on site. Of course, most of us here have done some remodeling on our own, and know the value an inexpensive backsplash can add aesthetically.
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My first few splashes were simple bathroom tile done in different colors and patterns. It is amazing what you can do with white tile and add green, red, and black in intermittently. My first couple were simple bathroom tile put on the walls. Made the kitchens brighter and clean looking. I cut those tiles with a skill saw clamped to saw horses upside down using a masonry blade. That was a long time ago. We are hoping that we can get our kitchen counters done from drops. They are in 4 sections that can be cut separately. That will drop the bottom out of the price. Then do the splash. Shower might be next fall after boating season.
 
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VolNExile said:
Thank you, I’m glad it looks more expensive than it is! And we just called it 3x12 subway. Another nice thing is that at only four tiles/ sq ft, it goes up fast. And the narrow grout lines make it easy to clean when the sauce gets to splashing. Which ours seems to do.
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I wanted 4x8 subway in the shower, but Lowes discontinued and I already bought the 3x6 for half the price as the 4x8 across town. a lot to say for tile that goes up quick. That 3x6 is going slow. will finish it tonight.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
My first few splashes were simple bathroom tile done in different colors and patterns. It is amazing what you can do with white tile and add green, red, and black in intermittently. My first couple were simple bathroom tile put on the walls. Made the kitchens brighter and clean looking. I cut those tiles with a skill saw clamped to saw horses upside down using a masonry blade. That was a long time ago. We are hoping that we can get our kitchen counters done from drops. They are in 4 sections that can be cut separately. That will drop the bottom out of the price. Then do the splash. Shower might be next fall after boating season.
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Yep. and don't have to do full surround splashes. I did only behind stove and painted rest. But was enough to set it off. Plain old cheap 4x4 gloss shower tile with 6 hand painted tiles set in. About $15.00 splash and was all that was needed. and set straight onto the sheetrock. no backer needed on splashes.

Drops are the way to go. We might have to buy two full sheets to do a top because of the design or shape, and have over 1/3 of it left.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I gave her a $10 per sf limit (1999 $$) and she came back with $40. Still trying to figure out why my instructions weren't followed!!! :D:p:D
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Ha, our “budget” was “here’s how much money we have; let’s see what we can do.” We actually came in a bit under except for the surprises that you find in a 1923 house that have to be fixed.

We were very, very fortunate with all the trades except for the plumbers. They were from a large local company that does a lot of commercial new build, so we were pretty small beer with them (hard to schedule, different guys every time.) But it all worked out in the end, or at least we’ll find out Monday on final inspection. Although tnuhcvols (sp?) saw something on plumbing roughin that looked not to code, although it passed the initial inspection. Carpenters and electricians were fantastic. They don’t even put out signs, because they’re booked for a year.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Y’all stfu and get back to work
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You mean "retirement"?
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Orangeslice13 said:
More overkill would be putting up waterproof underlayment before backerView attachment 253601
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About that overkill waterproofing and all the holes you're fixing to put in it nailing up your backer board......lol.

I taped the seams and corners with coats of Hydra Ban to about 12 inches above any water lines, quick coat of all the screw heads, then called it good. That's some fine backer board erection you got in the following pick though. I would not have had the patience to put up that liner.
 
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