The Impeachment Thread

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#26,552
Septic said:
The "expected return" was to kick the legs out from one of the tenants of what make our Republic great.

The intellectual gymnastics you have to get through to not accept this is astounding.
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Here is the video. Where does Mulvaney say he withheld aid as a quid pro quo to investigate Biden?

 
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#26,553
#26,553
Septic said:
Lol, yeah man. Whatever you need to tell yourself to push through the cognitive dissonance.

Remind me what crime Hunter was found guilty of again?

Hunter
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Don't blame me, I didn't sign the agreement. Who did? Hunter is yet to be determined yes? Or did you clear him of getting 10x the going rate for a BOD position already in exchange for the billion and firing the prosecutor? I love seeing you back the Biden's on record.
 
#26,555
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Orangeburst said:
Here is the video. Where does Mulvaney say he withheld aid as a quid pro quo to investigate Biden?

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You're not very good at moving the goal posts on the DL. But he admits to withholding aid just before he says "get over it".

Next time don't try to sneak in an argument that isn't being made, let alone two.
 
#26,556
#26,556
Septic said:
Whataboutisms aren't defenses when you would not have accepted this behavior from the last president.
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I was making an observation, if I had said Yeah but Barry , well yes but Barry or hey your president did it to , it would have been a whataboutism. I didn’t . I said he could have been describing the last administration and that it was ironic . To be perfectly honest though I’ve never been against using whataboutisms . I think it’s ridiculous to say we can’t compare the last administration to the present one . It’s done all the time in every topic . I believe screeching that’s whataboutism is just an excuse to ignore the fact that it was done before .
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
LOL another liberal elitist's academic study. Yea he scored big there LOL That was almost as convincing as the 500 liberal lawyers touting peach mint theory.
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Translation: I hate any expert who disagree with me and instead of refuting their assessment with facts and reason - I'll smugly dismiss them as elitests.
 
#26,559
#26,559
Septic said:
You're not very good at moving the goal posts on the DL. But he admits to withholding aid just before he says "get over it".

Next time don't try to sneak in an argument that isn't being made, let alone two.
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You claimed Mulvaney admitted as a factual witness. A witness to what?
 
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0nelilreb said:
I was making an observation, if I had said Yeah but Barry , well yes but Barry or hey your president did it to , it would have been a whataboutism. I didn’t . I said he could have been describing the last administration and that it was ironic . To be perfectly honest though I’ve never been against using whataboutisms . I think it’s ridiculous to say we can’t compare the last administration to the present one . It’s done all the time in every topic . I believe screeching that’s whataboutism is just an excuse to ignore the fact that it was done before .
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No, appeals to whataboutisms to excuse the current administrations behavior while rivers of tears have been cried about the former administration is self defeating.
 
#26,562
#26,562
Septic said:
Translation: I hate any expert who disagree with me and instead of refuting their assessment with facts and reason - I'll smugly dismiss them as elitests.
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Yes perhaps we have different views on experts. Like any sane person would try to refute the 3rd person expert diagnosis LOL We've witnessed your experts for 3 yrs now. Keep swinging from the academia teet tassles. I'll keep laughing at you.
 
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#26,564
Septic said:
No, appeals to whataboutisms to excuse the current administrations behavior while rivers of tears have been cried about the former administration is self defeating.
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LOL attacks whataboutism with whataboutism. Your on a roll tonight.
 
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#26,565
hjeagle1vol said:
Yes perhaps we have different views on experts. Like any sane person would try to refute the 3rd person expert diagnosis LOL We've witnessed your experts for 3 yrs now. Keep swinging from the academia teet tassles. I'll keep laughing at you.
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I'm not suggesting the "experts" are accurate, I'm simply implying your refutation of their conclusions isn't based on reason or fact - just feelz.
 
#26,566
#26,566
Septic said:
To withholding aid.

He said it unapologetically, and then he said 'get over it'.

What is confusing about this?
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He said they withheld aid to investigate issues in the 2016 election. It happens all the time, just as the Obama admin and others have always done. Nothing illegal about this.
 
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Septic said:
No, appeals to whataboutisms to excuse the current administrations behavior while rivers of tears have been cried about the former administration is self defeating.
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So when Trump is out of office and the next one is up , there isn’t going to be references back to how bad Trump was ? If it does happen you are going to be there to call it out ( if you aren’t the one doing it ) right ?
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
LOL attacks whataboutism with whataboutism. Your on a roll tonight.
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You clearly don't understand the argument. If your bar of acceptable behavior for Trump is a call back to remind us of Obama or Clinton shtty behavior, then your argument is self defeating.

I don't know how to dumb that down any further.
 
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0nelilreb said:
So when Trump is out of office and the next one is up , there isn’t going to be references back to how bad Trump was ? If it does happen you are going to be there to call it out ( if you aren’t the one doing it ) right ?
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Now you are getting it.
 
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Orangeburst said:
He said they withheld aid to investigate issues in the 2016 election. It happens all the time, just as the Obama admin and others have always done. Nothing illegal about this.
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Why are they arresting all those Ukrainians tied to their old administration? Its in the biden or ukraine thread. It's not looking good for team Rudy here or abroad.
 
#26,572
#26,572
Orangeburst said:
He said they withheld aid to investigate issues in the 2016 election. It happens all the time, just as the Obama admin and others have always done. Nothing illegal about this.
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Cool story, can't wait to see him and the boys trot that reason out under oath.
 
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