Looks like beer at Neyland was a success

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GTBATV said:
I took my family to four games this year. I don't remember the gates being locked at any of them. In fact, I know we left early at one of them.
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If you exit the stadium, you may not re-enter... money processed already, see you later...

The arguments against reasonable expectations that the vast majority of public events have in place are "you don't have to go to a game", "nobody's forcing you to pay the ridiculous prices on things" and "leave if you don't like it"

I'm not angry, but it wouldn't cost the university anything to put in place basic expectations and considerations for a public event... it would make the game experience much better for a large chunk of the crowd...

This totalitarian "well that's how it is, don't like it don't go" mentality doesn't serve any purpose but to justify that the crowd is "willingly" being taken advantage of

....... it's not just beer prices I'm complaining about :rolleyes:
 
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utvolpj said:
-price gouging is a myth

- I've never beed forced to buy anything at a UT game

- if someone can't make it 3-4 hours without a cancer stick then they're a loser imo

I'm not against selling beer in Neyland but my only experience this year was 5 drunk, vulgar young adults sitting in front of my family. One passed out during the game and all were gone by halftime. Sure that happened before beer sales but they we're definitely contributing to the sales. Would anyone ever be cut off in Neyland?
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While I was not "forced" there have been plenty of September games where I either bought a couple of $6 bottles of water or risked ending up in the ER with dehydration. I do agree on the smokers though, UT should not have to accommodate their bad habits.
 
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PoweredByTheT said:
If you exit the stadium, you may not re-enter... money processed already, see you later...

The arguments against reasonable expectations that the vast majority of public events have in place are "you don't have to go to a game", "nobody's forcing you to pay the ridiculous prices on things" and "leave if you don't like it"

I'm not angry, but it wouldn't cost the university anything to put in place basic expectations and considerations for a public event... it would make the game experience much better for a large chunk of the crowd...

This totalitarian "well that's how it is, don't like it don't go" mentality doesn't serve any purpose but to justify that the crowd is "willingly" being taken advantage of

....... it's not just beer prices I'm complaining about :rolleyes:
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So get mad at the people that are willing to pay the price, not the stadium that is selling it. I don't think it's totalitarianism. It's called fair market price. A product is only worth what someone is willing to pay. And apparently beer at Neyland is worth 1.5 million. Good for the school.
 
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imw8n4u said:
While I was not "forced" there have been plenty of September games where I either bought a couple of $6 bottles of water or risked ending up in the ER with dehydration. I do agree on the smokers though, UT should not have to accommodate their bad habits.
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This has always been a grind to me, the fact that they sell bottled water at such an inflated cost should 100% be illegal.
 
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utvolpj said:
Illegal? Use a drinking fountain

They charge what people are willing to pay. Pretty simple concept and has been working for centuries
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Humans are not built to go for 4 hours in Knoxville August heat without water... people pay prices that they're forced to pay when they have no other option...

Water fountains at a stadium filled with 100,000 people can not be considered a viable source for germ-free water :rolleyes:

Water is not a luxury item... $6 for a bottle of water should be illegal... $12 for a beer is absurd (which is why they only sold 125,000 in a span of 7 home games, that's extremely low-volume for beer sales/attendee)...

I don't understand the thought process of a person that can stand in defense of a university price-gouging concessions at sporting events... I go to 1-2 games a year... I'd go to more if they'd make an effort to not be total a-holes at the concession stands... I get I'm not going to convince the two people I'm conversing with... it's fine... done talking about it... I just can't wrap my head around how people can defend that... it's so outside my bounds of logic and reason :D
 
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PoweredByTheT said:
Humans are not built to go for 4 hours in Knoxville August heat without water... people pay prices that they're forced to pay when they have no other option...

Water fountains at a stadium filled with 100,000 people can not be considered a viable source for germ-free water :rolleyes:

Water is not a luxury item... $6 for a bottle of water should be illegal... $12 for a beer is absurd (which is why they only sold 125,000 in a span of 7 home games, that's extremely low-volume for beer sales/attendee)...

I don't understand the thought process of a person that can stand in defense of a university price-gouging concessions at sporting events... I go to 1-2 games a year... I'd go to more if they'd make an effort to not be total a-holes at the concession stands... I get I'm not going to convince the two people I'm conversing with... it's fine... done talking about it... I just can't wrap my head around how people can defend that... it's so outside my bounds of logic and reason :D
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It’s not UT’s responsibility to give out free stuff to make sure people are hydrated. Take some responsibility for yourselves at some point.
 
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1.5 million in beer sales, may or may not be a good thing, without ticket sales figures to go with it. If Ticket revenue is up, then it's all good, if on the other hand, ticket revenue is down by more than 1.5 million, then it would require another look. All in all I support the sale of beer, and I'm with those that believe the price of the beer should be lower. Has anyone looked at the exact mechanism used in the sale of beer? Who besides UT is profiting from this "Goldmine"?
 
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utvolpj said:
Evidently so is basic economics
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Basic Economics...

1. Charge people for entry into an event...
2. Search people for any existence of consumable items
3. Force people to throw it away any consumable objects found for entry to event they paid for... to ensure that a monopoly on said consumables is in effect
4. Inflate prices for consumable objects that people were forced to throw away to 3-5x retail value (retail value already has a standard economical margin built in) it's a monopoly now, so really just charge whateverTF you want, people have to pay that if they want the product
5. If a person leaves the confines of the inflated market, they are not allowed re-entry

Supply and demand... capitalism at its best... let's defend it guys :rolleyes:

I'm gonna go take my daughter to see Santa... bye guys
 
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PoweredByTheT said:
Basic Economics...

1. Charge people for entry into an event...
2. Search people for any existence of consumable items
3. Force people to throw it away any consumable objects found for entry to event they paid for... to ensure that a monopoly on said consumables is in effect
4. Inflate prices for consumable objects that people were forced to throw away to 3-5x retail value (retail value already has a standard economical margin built in) it's a monopoly now, so really just charge whateverTF you want, people have to pay that if they want the product
5. If a person leaves the confines of the inflated market, they are not allowed re-entry

Supply and demand... capitalism at its best... let's defend it guys :rolleyes:

I'm gonna go take my daughter to see Santa... bye guys
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All choices you make when spending your money. Markets work
 
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PoweredByTheT said:
It should be illegal to price gouge at events... Oregon has a written law against it... airports, concerts, football games etc have to sell beer and other merchandise at the same rates as pubs and retail around the area do.

They lock you from exiting the stadium for four hours, then force you to pay 3 times the value of basic consumable items (not to mention they don't even have a smoking area... which is ridiculous and inconsiderate............ I don't even smoke, but I frequent games with people that do, and some of them act like they're about to die after four hours without a smoke... it doesn't take any effort to gate an area outside the stadium for smokers to do their thing without forfeiting their tickets)

They'd make just as much money with more people willing to participate in concessions and it would create an atmosphere that people aren't feeling like they're being taken advantage of... which would increase ticket sales... more sell-outs... better looks from recruits... all the things better by just setting reasonable prices and setting up reasonable things like a smoking section outside the stadium.

As far as alcohol sales goes... I don't know why it was ever not a thing? Prohibition has been gone for far too long to be concerned about these things at a college campus where tailgating is one of the major selling points... stupid rules are stupid
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I bet you think price gouging in hurricanes and natural disaster is bad too?

You freely choose to go into a game for 4 hours. So the “sticker shock” is completely surprising. You act like you’ve never been to a game before. Don’t like the prices at concessions? Don’t go.
 
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PoweredByTheT said:
Basic Economics...

1. Charge people for entry into an event...
2. Search people for any existence of consumable items
3. Force people to throw it away any consumable objects found for entry to event they paid for... to ensure that a monopoly on said consumables is in effect
4. Inflate prices for consumable objects that people were forced to throw away to 3-5x retail value (retail value already has a standard economical margin built in) it's a monopoly now, so really just charge whateverTF you want, people have to pay that if they want the product
5. If a person leaves the confines of the inflated market, they are not allowed re-entry

Supply and demand... capitalism at its best... let's defend it guys :rolleyes:

I'm gonna go take my daughter to see Santa... bye guys
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You sound like a whiny socialist to be honest. You have the freedom to eat/drink prior or to buy things in the stadium or to choose not to buy anything. Quit whining. I’ve been to 300 plus UT games and never once thought “I’m gonna die so I need some water but I’m too good to drink from a water fountain and too principled to pay $3 extra for a bottle of water so idc about life anymore”
 
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PoweredByTheT said:
"Price gouging is a term referring to when a seller spikes the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair, and is considered exploitative, potentially to an unethical extent. Usually this event occurs after a demand or supply shock."

Demand or supply shock... like locking 100,000 people in a stadium for 4 hours... it's the exact definition of price gouging...

.... And "No one is required to buy tickets to go to the game" is an absolutely ridiculous stance to take on this issue... there's no reason the University can't set concessions to prices that aren't blatantly ripping off the fans that support them
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This is nonsense. You don’t like the price, then don’t buy it, no “price gouge”. There, problem solved.
 
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PoweredByTheT said:
"Price gouging is a term referring to when a seller spikes the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair, and is considered exploitative, potentially to an unethical extent. Usually this event occurs after a demand or supply shock."

Demand or supply shock... like locking 100,000 people in a stadium for 4 hours... it's the exact definition of price gouging...

.... And "No one is required to buy tickets to go to the game" is an absolutely ridiculous stance to take on this issue... there's no reason the University can't set concessions to prices that aren't blatantly ripping off the fans that support them
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Price gouging actually makes sure that supply is available for all people. Especially in natural disasters like hurricanes. Every year you see people posting on twitter that local grocery store is charging triple for cases of water or gas. Well yeah they should. Guarantees the “burn rate” of supply is less compared to keeping prices the same so a few people can buy up all the supply. Smh
 
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IIRC, the Battle at Bristol sold somewhere around 500,000 beers. It would be interesting to see the economic impact of decreasing the price. If they sold 2-3x as many at, say $8, that's at least a $M+ in additional profit.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Price gouging actually makes sure that supply is available for all people. Especially in natural disasters like hurricanes. Every year you see people posting on twitter that local grocery store is charging triple for cases of water or gas. Well yeah they should. Guarantees the “burn rate” of supply is less compared to keeping prices the same so a few people can buy up all the supply. Smh
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This is crazy, in a Disaster, there are people that can't buy anything, as their money etc. floated away, got burned up, etc. To charge anyone in this type of situation for water should be a crime- it is despicable. I'd be ashamed of myself for trying to profit off a bottle of water during a Natural Disaster. I suppose selling food to a displaced child would okay? I hope not.
 
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